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Pilot Stops El Al Cargo Plane Enroute...  
User currently offlineElal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 780 times:

08:05 Pilot stops El Al cargo plane enroute to Belgium after engine ignites before takeoff


This is 2nd engine fire for elal in less then a week!!!

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 663 times:

smells like sabotage...


I wish I were flying
User currently offlineDelboy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 725 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 626 times:

jwenting

Stop being sensationalistic!

More than likely pure bad luck.


User currently offlineBluewhite From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 607 times:

And the security around ElAl aircraft is......umm......fairly tight......!
Sheer coincidence.

BW



User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 603 times:

More likely poor maintenance...

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 568 times:

How old are the engines on the 742's?

User currently offlineTca256 From Belgium, joined Dec 1999, 729 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 549 times:

"More likely poor maintenance" ? are you joking ? this
may be the case for this incident but in general, El Al has one of the best safety rate in the world and most of its pilots and technicians are ex-IAF, a reference!  Innocent


User currently offlineEl Al 001 From Israel, joined Oct 1999, 1063 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 519 times:

Another bird strike.

User currently offlineAvi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 943 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 490 times:

This is the 4th incident in TLV in 30 hours.

1) A bird strike an El-Al B747-200 just after take-off (the plane landed with 3 engines).
2) A crack in a cockpit window on another El-Al B747-200F
3) An ATR emergency landing due to electrical problems after it was hit by a lightning.
4) This B747-200F

The last one was stuck on the runway for several hours and forces another plane (a flight to Canada) to take off from a shorter runway (with less fuel than needed) and because of that to make a refueling stop in Europe (instead of a direct flight).




Long live the B747
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 468 times:

Does El Al interrogate the cargo like it does its passengers, making it check in 3 hours beforehand?  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 441 times:

My .02 cents.

Sounds like a bad day, probably nothing more, nothing less.

The reference to "poor maintenance" doesn't have any basis in reality. I know nothing of El Al mx, but engines unfortunetly do fail, windows do crack, birds hit airplanes and aircraft on occasion *do* return to the airport. These events are extremely undesirable and everything should be done to avoid these situations, but they do happen.

Sometimes when it rains it pours. For example, take a subsystem on any type aircraft that is relatively troublefree most of the time. All of a sudden you might have a rash of problems with this system on several aircraft in a short period of time. To the average airline fan, this might appear an ominous conspiracy worthy of an A.net discussion (which is OK  Smile) but is 99.9% business as usual.

Good safety records have little to do with planes breaking. Good safety statistics indicate the flight crews ability to function in an abnormal situation and a corporate thus maintenance and operational culture of safety. I've not yet worked for an airline, even if bankrupt (CO's lean years) or lacking capital (PEX) that operated unsafely.



You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 413 times:

emotions getting ahead of themselves......

Ceilidh holds contempt for EL AL and Israel.

They're many instances on the forum, such as a thread about Israel's CAL in a petty squabble with another kenyan airline and loads of other worthless posts.

(he doesn't mask his contempt that well!)  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineElal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 362 times:

Tca256 right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineAio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 354 times:

Who was flying that ATR into TLV? Arkia?