Tca256 From Belgium, joined Dec 1999, 729 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 542 times:
"More likely poor maintenance" ? are you joking ? this
may be the case for this incident but in general, El Al has one of the best safety rate in the world and most of its pilots and technicians are ex-IAF, a reference!
Avi From Israel, joined Sep 2001, 922 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 483 times:
This is the 4th incident in TLV in 30 hours.
1) A bird strike an El-Al B747-200 just after take-off (the plane landed with 3 engines).
2) A crack in a cockpit window on another El-Al B747-200F
3) An ATR emergency landing due to electrical problems after it was hit by a lightning.
4) This B747-200F
The last one was stuck on the runway for several hours and forces another plane (a flight to Canada) to take off from a shorter runway (with less fuel than needed) and because of that to make a refueling stop in Europe (instead of a direct flight).
FDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 38 Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 434 times:
My .02 cents.
Sounds like a bad day, probably nothing more, nothing less.
The reference to "poor maintenance" doesn't have any basis in reality. I know nothing of El Al mx, but engines unfortunetly do fail, windows do crack, birds hit airplanes and aircraft on occasion *do* return to the airport. These events are extremely undesirable and everything should be done to avoid these situations, but they do happen.
Sometimes when it rains it pours. For example, take a subsystem on any type aircraft that is relatively troublefree most of the time. All of a sudden you might have a rash of problems with this system on several aircraft in a short period of time. To the average airline fan, this might appear an ominous conspiracy worthy of an A.net discussion (which is OK ) but is 99.9% business as usual.
Good safety records have little to do with planes breaking. Good safety statistics indicate the flight crews ability to function in an abnormal situation and a corporate thus maintenance and operational culture of safety. I've not yet worked for an airline, even if bankrupt (CO's lean years) or lacking capital (PEX) that operated unsafely.
TWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 406 times:
emotions getting ahead of themselves......
Ceilidh holds contempt for EL AL and Israel.
They're many instances on the forum, such as a thread about Israel's CAL in a petty squabble with another kenyan airline and loads of other worthless posts.
Elal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 355 times:
Aio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 347 times:
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