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User currently offlineSalim From Lebanon, joined Jun 2001, 303 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1554 times:

Are the pilots allowed to smoke in the cokpit?
Does it depend of the companies?
thanks
Salim

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User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

When I visited the cockpit during the flight from Maasticht to London Gatwick (we were just crossing the Channel, in the Virgin Atlantic Vickers Viscount, the "Maastricht Maiden") I saw the both pilots smoking. I was astonished watching the cockpit blue of smoke and I remembered that I made a prompt remark: it's cloudy here....

User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

When I flew Olympic Airways from Athens to Amsterdam in 1992, I visited the cockpit during the flight and both pilots where also smoking. They even offered me a sigarette !

But now, I don't think too many pilots will smoke in the cockpit, but I've heard it still happens from time to time.

Regards, SN-A330



I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineAir Orange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Here is that legendary iron thing at MAA which I flew. Pilots were smoking in the narrow cockpit. The passenger windows were huge and great for sight seeing.


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Photo © Frank Schaefer



Air Orange  Smokin cool


User currently offlineRamper@IAH From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 240 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

All U.S. airline's flights are non smoking. This includes the pilots.

User currently offlineA/c dxer From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 416 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

That doesn't mean that the pilots don't smoke in the cockpit. I've seen pilots in the US smoke in the cockpit. Out of sight, out of mind.

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Yeah, I´ve seen smoking LH pilots not long ago, long after LH became non-smoking.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8188 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

Salim, you're in Beirut right? Well I stayed with a friend in Chemlan (in the Chouf) who was an MEA 707 flight engineer til about 84 and he said they all used to smoke cigars, and the smoke in the cockpit used to get so thick they'd have to perform the emergency 'smoke in the cockpit' checklist to clear it - opening outlet valves and raising (or lowering...can't remember) the cabin pressurisation! He thought it was hilarious.

Happy new year to all btw.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

It should not be allowed what soever!

-Dmitry


User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

In the US absloutely not, never seen it, heard of it, or even rumors of it. I have seen plenty of crew members chew though.

User currently offlineSalim From Lebanon, joined Jun 2001, 303 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1291 times:

Thanks everybody
For ceaderjet
i'm lebanese but i leave in Paris. I saw most of Mea pilots smoking. This is why i ask this
By the way, i add new cokpit photos of mea
Salim



User currently offlineBapilot2b From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 927 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

I remember flying to bulgaria on Balkan in 95, HORRIBLE green bare cockpit (TU154) and both pilots were...yes you guessed it! smoking! just wish the warmth went on the food! the food was frozen!


Jason Nicholls - v1images
User currently offlineCoRocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

A friend of mine is a FO for Continental Express and he says that pilots routinely smoke in the cockpit.

User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1337 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

When I engineered on the L1011 I had a Captain get up in cruise and sit on the aft jumpseat right in back of me. I was facing the panel and after a few minutes I turned to see what he was doing and of course he was smoking. I had never seen anybody smoke in the cockpit at DAL as it was against FAA/company policy. But I was amazed at how he had lit up 18 inches away from me without me smelling a thing. He had opened up the hatch to the E&E compartment directly below the cockpit. There was such a huge flow of air from the cockpit to the E&E compartment that he could have smoked a whole pack and I never would have known. He was a Great Guy, but get this... when I flew with him he was just getting back from his extended sick leave for throat cancer!

George if you are out there reading this, I really enjoyed flying on the Tritanic with you. You were among the best.


User currently offlineTWA717_200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

I know for a fact that some U.S. pilots smoke while flying.

User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

TWA717_200, Do they reduce visibilty while landing?:D

User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

The pilot of the Comair CRJ that I was on a few weeks ago at CVG was smoking while we were loading. I think that he was a throw-back, as it appeared that he was getting close to Mandatory Retirement age.

User currently offlineRussianplnelvr From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1159 times:

What about cargo pilots in the U.S.? Since UPS, FedEX, Airborne,...etc don't carry passengers, do the no- smoking rules apply to them?




User currently offlineKonstantinos From Greece, joined Jun 2001, 389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1157 times:

If the Captain wants to smoke in the cockpit then he will do so. I think it's up to the Captain. However, I wouldn't smoke as a first officer if my Captain didn't.
I also know some Captain/Captains out there that smoke in the cockpit like chimneys.


User currently offlineGRZ-AIR From Austria, joined Apr 2001, 574 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1133 times:


I was once in a LH jumpseat when I realized the capatain smoking..but he was kind a bending forward and I wouldnt see it at first..then I said that it smells like smoke in here and I got kind a scared...just then I realized what was on fire !  Smile
Does anybody know what the law/regulation is on this ?

thanks GRZ-AIR



When I joined A.net it was still free, haha ;).
User currently offlineLufthansa404 From Germany, joined Aug 2001, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1128 times:

I heared Air China pilots are famous for smoking in the cockpit.

Cheers

Jan


User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

It happens!!

I was in the jumpseat of a brand spanking new CAL 737 in 1999 from DCA to CLE with two older pilots who asked before pushback if I minded if they smoke. I said no as I knew I had no choice anyway. They fired up on the taxiway and smoked very quickly then finished with a quick spray of something very strong under the dash. The first officer turned around and said "this is why we learn the systems on this thing. The smoke smell will first be smelled around row 7 through the recirculation fan #1" They burned 3 a piece on the 1 hour 15 minute flight. They even said that CLE 737 and DC-9 pilots had certain "smoking lines" that the pilots knew about where smokers would bid to fly together. I don't know if it still goes on as the DC9's are gone and CLE is a lot smaller 737 base. I did pass a MD-80 on the ramp in IAH a month ago and the captain was taxiing with the window open. I thought it was for the nice 56 degree day but then he threw a cigerette but in our direction and I knew he wasn't just enjoying the weather.



Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
User currently offlineAeromexico757 From Mexico, joined Aug 2000, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1117 times:

Just take a look at this shot.


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Photo © Marlo Plate



find the cigarrets


User currently offlineJoge From Finland, joined Feb 2000, 1444 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1106 times:

Oh yeah, I jumpseated on an OA 737-200 and both of the pilots were smoking one hour non-stop!

I wonder how did they see anything behind all that smoke.  Big grin

-Joge



Bula!
User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1085 times:

Is it rude or somehow wrong to speak up if your Captain smokes and you don't?

I, for one, can't stand cigarette smoke. Whenever someone smokes I physically can't breathe. It feels as if the air has suddenly become very heavy and I'm having an asmathetic attack. It should be noted that I'm not normally asmathetic.

I also value my health and try, when I can, to get out for a good run.

- Neil Harrison


25 Give it a GO : I've jump seated with Ryanair recently, and the F/O was smoking on the flight deck. The cabin crew came in and said she thought someone was smoking in
26 Post contains images TWA717_200 : TWA717_200, Do they reduce visibilty while landing?:D
27 Russianplnelvr : Wouldn't the passengers notice it
28 Post contains links Squigee : Discussed here as well: http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/506568/
29 Swissgabe : Indeed there are some Airlines very famous for smoking in the cockpit. MAS?
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