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User currently offlineDelta777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 661 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 1556 times:

When is this whole Wings alliance thing ganna start? Its going to be Northwest, Continental and KLM right?

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User currently offlineRoyalDutch From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1483 times:

Is that still even in the works? I know Alitalia is out...did that cause the whole thing to fall apart? What happened there?

User currently offlineMas777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2939 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

KLM (and its subsidiaries), Northwest Airlines (and subsidiaries) and Malaysia Airlines would be the main players in 'WINGS'.

Continental, Kenya Airways, Jet Airways, China Southern and Air China are all currently complementary as each has code-share agreements with some of the three main carriers but not all. There are of course many other carriers involved with each carrier.

KLM, NWA and MAS are all at top-level talks about an alliance with the possibility of equity stakes. The three already have a tri-partite code-share on the AMS-KUL route with a view to Transatlantic cooperation.

Continental has become a late entrant into any talks and as such may not be a founding member - if at all 'Wings' does take-off. Who knows? There is a lot more at stake than just the airline and its operations - Amsterdam Schiphol is also in talks with Kuala Lumpur International airport and each carrier (like most at the moment) is busy streamlining its own operations.

This would be an interesting grouping to watch as KLM and NWA are undoubtably 'old hats' at the alliance game and it would not surprise me if they are planning a revolutionary step to take on STAR, OneWorld and SkyTeam - to try and leap ahead.

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4532 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Continental and KLM have just reached a codeshare agreement, so this is one step forward to Wings, as KLM and CO were having some difficulties working out an agreement. Wings would be a formidable opponent to Star, OneWorld, and Skyteam. KLM is just about the size of BA, LH, and AF. NW and CO combined are about the size of DL, AA, and UA.

User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

NW and CO combined are actually larger than UA. I don't know about AA though.

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User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

NW and CO together would be over 900 planes. That competes with AA.

User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1382 times:

I thought MAS is only having head-level talks with KLM only. There had been no news so far regarding NWA. Although NWA and MAS are the first American and Asian carrier to gain anti-trust immunity, they did not even make use of it. MAS do not even code-share with NWA and vice versa. They were supposed to launch some code share flights last year but that did not happen as well!

User currently offlineEmile From Netherlands, joined Nov 2000, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

they do klm/nw/mh amsterdam Kuala Lumpur manila

User currently offlineAmo757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

what will happen if BA and KLM merge, or whatever is going on between them, that will surely effect the whole situation, wont it>????

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