9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6 Posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1174 times:
For those who are interested, here's what i got yesterday aftering having lunch with a SQ senior staff here in Hong Kong.He told me:
1.Though SQ has not yet announced the launch offically, the route was planned to launch on 1st September, 2002.However, this is the latest date that the route will be launched (No more further delays) and from what i heard the route might be launched in May instead of the proposed September.If everything in the United States is on track, SIA will release the route before the Hong Kong summer holidays, which means around Mid-June, to suit the demand for the summer holidays.
2.As most of you know that SIA will fly the B772ERS on the route, however SQ might consider the A340 in the early period.This is due to the ETOPS problem of the B772s (Which i have not yet get more news on what problems they are), and that the A340 doesn't need the ETOPS, which means the ETOPS problem could be settled if using the Celestars on the route.
3.This will also be the last U.S flight launched by SIA (Unless SQ could get more traffic rights to the U.S.)Before SQ considered Washington, Las Vegas and Dallas, which at last Las Vegas was chosen, due to HKG - SFO was a SQ route, and after the Las Vegas - Hong Kong route was launched, it means that Hong Kong people could have another choice of getting back to Hong Kong except via SFO.Also demand is enough for SQ to Las Vegas, considering people going to Las Vegas for trips or business, and that there are lack of international routes (Heard that JAL to Las Vegas has been suspended).
Nickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1457 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1074 times:
I think the problem probably lies in the fact that they can not currently fly nonstop from Singapore to anywhere in the States and they want fifth freedom traffic rights from the stopover point to the USA.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1034 times:
I see 9V-SVA's point. Transit traffic is what is needed. The A340-500 doesn't provide that if it goes SIN-US West Coast non stop.
Nickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1457 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 982 times:
Sorry, I should have been clearer! I know that they currently have fifth freedom rights on all of their USA routes. However, I think that there are limits on the amount that they have been allocated by the govts of Hong Kong (China), Japan etc.
9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 977 times:
SQ have used all up their quotas
But they could still start non-stop routes to the U.S from singapore, just that no more fith-freedom rights.I think SQ needs to negotiate or so with U.S authorities.
Docpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1938 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 970 times:
Nick: that's why they should do it via Amsterdam, since Singapore and Holland, and Singapore and the USA, have open skies. Does it matter if Holland and the USA have open skies?
Of course it would only make practical sense if they flew to the east coast via Amsterdam.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 946 times: