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User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

For those who are interested, here's what i got yesterday aftering having lunch with a SQ senior staff here in Hong Kong.He told me:

1.Though SQ has not yet announced the launch offically, the route was planned to launch on 1st September, 2002.However, this is the latest date that the route will be launched (No more further delays) and from what i heard the route might be launched in May instead of the proposed September.If everything in the United States is on track, SIA will release the route before the Hong Kong summer holidays, which means around Mid-June, to suit the demand for the summer holidays.

2.As most of you know that SIA will fly the B772ERS on the route, however SQ might consider the A340 in the early period.This is due to the ETOPS problem of the B772s (Which i have not yet get more news on what problems they are), and that the A340 doesn't need the ETOPS, which means the ETOPS problem could be settled if using the Celestars on the route.

3.This will also be the last U.S flight launched by SIA (Unless SQ could get more traffic rights to the U.S.)Before SQ considered Washington, Las Vegas and Dallas, which at last Las Vegas was chosen, due to HKG - SFO was a SQ route, and after the Las Vegas - Hong Kong route was launched, it means that Hong Kong people could have another choice of getting back to Hong Kong except via SFO.Also demand is enough for SQ to Las Vegas, considering people going to Las Vegas for trips or business, and that there are lack of international routes (Heard that JAL to Las Vegas has been suspended).

Best Regards

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User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

I thought Singapore and the USA have open skies? So why do they need additional traffic rights?

Pardon my ignorance, but doesn't Open Skies mean unlimited traffic rights?


User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1798 times:

I think the problem probably lies in the fact that they can not currently fly nonstop from Singapore to anywhere in the States and they want fifth freedom traffic rights from the stopover point to the USA.

User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

SIA does have fifth-freedom rights on all its flights to the US.If there were no fifth-freedom rights at all, SIA would not be even flying to the USA.

It would be a loss-making route as many of the people on US-bound flights get off at the transit stop or get on at the transit stop.

That is why SIA should not bother getting the A340-500 as they will start making losses.

9V-SVA



9V-SVA | B772ER
User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1761 times:

Singapore also has open skies with Holland. Doesn't that mean they could fly SIN-AMS-East coast of USA any number of times?

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13741 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

I see 9V-SVA's point. Transit traffic is what is needed. The A340-500 doesn't provide that if it goes SIN-US West Coast non stop.

Hmmmm. A good thing they're delayed anyway then.



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User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Sorry, I should have been clearer! I know that they currently have fifth freedom rights on all of their USA routes. However, I think that there are limits on the amount that they have been allocated by the govts of Hong Kong (China), Japan etc.

User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

SQ have used all up their quotas

But they could still start non-stop routes to the U.S from singapore, just that no more fith-freedom rights.I think SQ needs to negotiate or so with U.S authorities.

Best Regards


User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

Nick: that's why they should do it via Amsterdam, since Singapore and Holland, and Singapore and the USA, have open skies. Does it matter if Holland and the USA have open skies?

Of course it would only make practical sense if they flew to the east coast via Amsterdam.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13741 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1670 times:

Can anyone answer 9V-SVA's point?


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