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User currently offlineVinovalentino From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

A post in "Cancelled Airliners" a few minutes ago made me think of a question I have about the proposed 727-300.

I have read about this proposed aircraft numerous times. I understand that it included a 220 inch stretch over a 727-200 and revised landing gear. I have never seen a single drawing or sketch of the proposed (and ulitimatelt cancelled) aircraft.

Does anyone know if such a drawing or sketch exists?


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

I seem to recall a drawing/artist's impression....possibly in Flight Intl magazine around 1977/78 when it was proposed.

If memory serves, only UA showed interest.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Boeing dropped any plans for such an airliner after they gave the go-ahead for the then-new and similarily sized B757-200.

User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2551 times:

Thankfully Boeing wisely went with a new airframe instead of another stretch in this instance. Can you imagine the amount of runway a stretched -200 would require to takeoff?

User currently offlineStarship From South Africa, joined Nov 1999, 1098 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2520 times:



The Boeing 727-300 was a projected 220 inch stretch of the basic 727-200 with a modified wing, new four-wheel main undercarriage trucks, and wide fan JT8D-217 engines. The wing included 747-style leading edge flaps outboard, conventional slat section inboard, and a much simpler system of double-slotted (as opposed to triple-slotted) trailing edge flaps. The wing span was to be increased by 60 inches and the tailplane span by 40 inches. The aircraft was designed to carry 220 tourist-class passengers over a 2000 mile stage-length, with 10% better seat mile costs than the 200-series. The -300 project was cancelled in 1975, when Boeing's attention switched to a project that was later to become the 757, known as the 7N7 during devolopment and pictured below.







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User currently offlineVinovalentino From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2473 times:

Thanks Starship..

That's just what I was looking for. That Eastern 7N7 is a beautiful aircraft.






User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13595 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2430 times:
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If memory serves, the Boeing concept plane listed above was referred to as the 7J7, not the 7N7.

Just my .02 worth.  Smile



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

No, it was indeed called the 7N7.

The 7J7 was a small widebody with the UDF (unducted fan) engine.






Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3771 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

I didn't know the 757 was originally designed as a T-tail. I thought that the 727-300 was changed, and it became the 757-200. That's interesting!

Guess I'm wrong!

DeltaRules



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Notice the original 757 concept also had a 707/727/737 style nose/cockpit.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Boeing had been considering the 727-300 but world economics and the impending arrival of the 757 meant that the aircraft was never built.



User currently offlineTwa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

wow that 727-300 looks like an MD-90, ILS

twa902



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Actually, during the 1976-1978 time frame Boeing offered a lengthened 727 variant that would have been powered by two PW2037 engines instead of three JT8D engines. There was actually interest from several major 727 users in the USA over this proposal, but after running some numbers in regards to economics of the 727 updated design Boeing decided to build an all-new plane instead--the 757-200. Now you know why airlines with very large 727-200 fleets in the 1970's (AA, CO, DL, NW and UA) all eventually bought the 752.

User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2327 times:

Look closely Twa902fly, it says 727 on the side.

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