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CI/AE MD-11 Crash In Hong Kong *few Years Back*  
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3643 times:

I would just like to let you know about a video I had the chance to see.

The video is taken from an approach road to 25L at CLK and shows aircraft trying to land during the Typhoon that B-150 (CI/AE MD-11) crashed in. Its only a few minutes long and show's a QF744, CX A333, CX 773 and then the landing of B-150.

All seems to be OK till just before touchdown when the plane drops like a brick on to the runway from what only seems to be a few meteres . The first thing you see is a flash of flames from the inner wing followed by a huge fire ball and black smoke, within a second you see the left wing going over the top as the plane rolls over........, as this is happening you can see the nose of a CX 777 at the holding point. I can only try to guess the shock of the crew and passengers of this CX aircraft as this crash takes place meters in front of them, not to mention all the passengers in the terminal.

After seeing the wreck and the crash I find it so amazing only 3-4 people died. A great deal of luck.

The person that took this video did not want it to be made available to news stations as he felt it was wrong (I DO NOT KNOW THE PERSON WHO TOOK IT) .

This video is not on the net and I do not have access to see it again.


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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3556 times:

Yes, I have also seen this chilling video. It's scary stuff, and definately not something I would wish to see in person.

User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3533 times:

I don't know if you saw the same version
or not... I did download a 11-minute
video of that landing/crash/fire from
Morpheus.(P2P) It is a 31.6MB MPEG file.
Search for "china air" or "air crash" and
set the search field to "at least 10MB"
video file. It appeared to be videotaped
by a window seat passenger. The video
quality is decent, but I could not
understand the words she was saying...
(probably Chinese or something...)
It took me a couple of days to download
the whole thing, as the uploader seemd to
have a very slow connection...


User currently offlineAC826 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 94 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3516 times:

Where's that site?

User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3513 times:

what is the web address for Morpheus? Thanks


cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3505 times:

The video is not released to the general public and I would be surprised if there was a copy in the public domain. It is videoed by one of our pilots from his car as the aircraft fly overhead towards the threshold.

I'll look for the Morpheus


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3473 times:

I dont think its on the net. If it was you would have all seen it and it would be very, very well known.

User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

I think I have seen the video mentioned by Bobcat on TV news in HK during periods of the crash.

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3457 times:

It was NOT on the news.

User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

The one seen on the news was taken by a passenger out of a window as they were taxiing past, after the incident. The video that I am HKGSpotty are talking about is one where it actually crashes on tape.

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

Yes, you see it from about a mile out to ...... death.

User currently offlineAirbus A3XX From Australia, joined May 1999, 507 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3432 times:

I mean the video mentioned by Bobcat....

User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 623 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

I remeber that night, my dad have a busy one, he is a firman who based in The Peak, he remebered the busy radio channel and many ambulance were on loan to the airport.

Hkgspotter1:-

I am back to Cardiff now, thanks you for an exciting
evening in CLK, see you in June

CXFlyboy: -

Sorry I was late that day but I hop to meet you in near future

Regards
Kev





Live life to max!!!
User currently offlineWoodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1029 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Here is the link to a page w/video of the CAL plane approaching and then going behind buildings. It doesnt show the actual crash, but it does show a very unstable and fast approach. This video is from the BBC but its not at the BBC site.

click below...
http://www.agrosz.com/md11/incidents.html

There are a few other things on this page including an interesting shot of the reconstructed Swissair MD-11 that crashed off Peggy's Cove in 1998. I havent ever seen photos of it so it was interesting.

-Chris


User currently offlineBobcat From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

Morpheus can be downloaded from
cnet.com, here's the link:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-1896420-100-6525083.html

As with any other peer-to-peer sharing
network, it takes a little time/patience
to locate the exact file you want.

By the way, the one I downloaded was
definitely different. It is from a passenger
windown of a aircraft on the taxiway. The
original poster said his video was shot
by a pilot...



User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Woodsboy,

I saw the video footage, and the footage is of aircraft going around at Kai Tak!!!!! I saw this footage years ago when the China Airlines 744 went into the harbour at Kai Tak. Strange for the BBC to use completely wrong footage!!!


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Can people please listen.

We are talking about the Mandarin MD-11 that crashed at CLK. Not the video of an MD-11 trying to land in KAI TAK !!!!. Like CXFlyboy said it is strange that the BBC made such a mistake.

The video we are talking about is the most detailed crash video I've ever seen. You see the whole plane explode.



User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

hey hey, stop teasing us with this video about the Mandarin MD11 crash in CLK  Sad


cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Trust me, it's not really something you want to watch.

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

Cathay Pacific,

Sorry, I'm not trying to tease people. I was only saying what I had seen. The same way I post what I've seen during a trip to the airport.

As CXFlyboy said its not something you want to see. I was a little speechless after I saw it.


User currently offlineBluewhite From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2001, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

Damn, I'd like to see it.........and then probably never dare to fly again!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently, it really was a miracle that there were so few casualties (sad as it was).

BW


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

Bluewhite,

I saw it because I had the chance, not because I had to see it. It was very interesting to have the chance to see it but at the same time it gives you a very funny feeling knowing that you are watching three people die.

Whats interesting is watching it happen at a place I know so well, you know the location because you have been there so many times.

If I ever saw this kind of thing in person I'm not sure how I would handle it.

On June 6th 1994 I almost saw VR-HYU of DragonAir crash, that had me shaking. Have you seen the Accident Investigation report for that ??. They landed on the 4th try and already told the tower they would have to ditch if they could not make it. Even when it landed it went accross the grass and stopped on a taxiway !!!.


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3237 times:

Hkgspotter1:

What happened to that DragonAir?? Was it landing when there was a typhoon?



cathay pacific, now you're really flying
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

The Dragonair did not land during a typhoon. It had some sort of a flap problem, and if I remember correctly, has differing flap settings on the different sides of the aircraft. I'm probably wrong, but control difficulties anyway.

They attempted various approaches but had to go-around each time. In the end they were very low on fuel and the pilot just had to put it down, even if it was not a stable approach. They touched down and immediately veered off the runway, across the grass, heading straight for the harbour. Luckily the pilot managed to turn it onto the parallel taxiway and stop. They stopped in something like 300M.

HKGSpotter1 got the whole thing on his camera and the photos are in the back of the accident report.


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

is there anywhere where we can see the pics of this accident?


cathay pacific, now you're really flying
25 Bluewhite : I remember watching a TG MD11 shave off its port side winglet at Kai Tak (from the old obsvn deck in the early 90's). I do remember my heart in my mou
26 Hkgspotter1 : I was at the airport the day the KA A320 made its bad landing, my photos are in the accident report. I've been spotting in Hong Kong since October 199
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