FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1371 times:
As Ceilidh said, they're a source for spare parts now. Including the first DC-10 built, stored at Goodyear. Fed Ex had originally intended to convert all its DC-10s into MD-10Fs. As of now, it only look like a dozen or so MD-10Fs will exist. A damn shame about the first DC-10...it should be preserved. Regards.
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Seagull From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 340 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1352 times:
That is incorrect. FedEx still plans to convert 89 of them to MD-10s, including the 13 already flying. 6 more are slated for this year. The above aircraft may be part of the group that are no longer going to be converted, but I do not know for sure.
Woodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1023 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1319 times:
A little off the subject but since we are talking about the engines of the MD-10/DC-10.........along with the conversion program to bring DC-10s up to MD-10s, why wasnt re-engining looked into? I realize that with the EFIS, engine controls will be optimized for economy over the antiquated older systems, but it would seem that with such an ambitious project, installing new CF6-80C2D1F like on MD-11s would make the DC-10s even more efficient unless these newer CFs would overpower the DC-10.......any thoughts?
Da man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12 Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1298 times:
It would be a shame if the first DC-10 was scrapped.
Even though I would like to think what would of happened if AA had chosen the L-1011 over the DC-10!
Just Imagine! No MD-11!
Long live the L-1011 TriStars!
Seagull From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 340 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1280 times:
Not sure what your source is, but that rumor that only the -10s will be converted is also not true, both the 10s and 30s are slated for conversion. Perhaps they mean that facility specifically, as there are several locations where the mod is being done?
Seagull From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 340 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
FedEx never did change their mind, it's always been a "go", but there have been those that have insisted it was first never going to happen and then pronounced it dead over and over again since the inception. The company is very pleased with the aircraft and is going forward with all of the originally planned conversions, and always has been.
Woodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1023 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1251 times:
It wasnt too long ago when FedEx decided (I know its been discussed here in the forum) that they werent going to take all the ex-AA DC-10s (and some UA DC-10s) that they originally planned for the MD-10 conversion. One example is the first DC-10 to be in service and the oldest surviving example was suppose to be an MD-10 conversion and very clearly it is no longer on the log. In fact it appears that only one ex-AA plane (N550FE/N121AA) is now operating w/FedEx and not a single other ex-AA plane is scheduled for the conversion. Also true is the FACT that FedEx isnt taking all the SwissAir MD-11s for freighter conversion either as previously planned. It looks like they will either be used as pax aircraft in the as of yet unnamed SwissAir/CrossAir successor. Perhaps UPS will take some of them since they are out to get MD-11s now.
Seagull From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 340 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1213 times:
TWA, in response to that thread, note that the deal was 89 firm conversions and the rest were options. The _planned_ aircraft are being converted. The real story is that not all of those airframes were salvageable, the cost was more than made sense. Not too surprising, really.
As for the SR MD-11s, the price negotiated at the time of the original contract was a lot higher than the current "book" value. The company doesn't want to pay a premium for airplanes in this market, and who should blame them? They could get out of the contract for free, so they took that option. No doubt that they will get the airframes from somewhere, one way or another. Could end up being those same airplanes, just not at the same price, but time will tell. They weren't supposed to come for a while yet, anyway.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6246 posts, RR: 36 Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1211 times:
Besides the fact that these aircraft are not at PHX, they are at GYR (Goodyear/Litchfield Park), most are already owned by FedEx. Ceilidh is correct, the DC-10-10s are now destined for the Pepsi plant down the road.
Is grammar no longer taught is schools? Saying "me and her" or some such implies illiteracy.
DC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 7 Reply 20, posted (11 years 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1092 times:
ALL THE DC-10-10'S & -30'S FLYING FOR FEDEX NOW WILL BE MD10-10'S & -30'S BY 2007. 89 DC-10'S TOTAL.A CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BY FEDEX WITH MD BEFORE BOEING BOUGHT THEM. I DID HERE THAT THE SWISS AIR OWNED COMPANY IN PALMDALE CA. WILL NO LONGER DO WORK FOR FEDEX. I THINK ITS CALLED SWISSTECHNIC OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE CF-6K ENGS ON THE AA DC-10-10'S IS THE MAIN REASON FEDEX IS NOT MODING THOSE PLANES, THE CF-6K HAS A CF-6-50 FAN.
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