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3 LH 742 In HHN  
User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2538 times:
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I don't know if it has been reported before, but I just got photos of a LH 747-200 being scrapped in Hahn (HHN). I encouraged the photographer to upload them here. Titles/logos are removed, engines and gear gone.
I checked and found out that D-ABYQ, -YR and -YX are all in HHN.
I'll try to visit the place this weekend.

Konstantin


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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
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Sorry, make that four! -ZD is there too.


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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2164 times:
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One thing is strange, actually the other three are supposed to be in Marana, but the system I looked into says Hahn... well at least one is photo-proofed.


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User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Hi Konstantin,

I thought that Lufthansa had sold at least some of the -200's to other airlines but it's really no good news that they are being scrapped now.
Well just as long YM is still doing ok  Nuts

Max
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User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2100 times:
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Hi Konstantin

According to LH Technik the big scrapp parts (sucha s aluminium and other recyclable materials) will be transfered to a big industrial scrapeyard near Offenbach.
I'l ask my Lufthansa "Informanden" at FRA for further details.

Mario  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2095 times:
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OK, one more update:
Currently only -YQ in HHN (parted out)
-YM and -YR will move from FRA to HHN (I guess same fate...sorry, Max!)
Three others in MZJ, the two still flying will go to MZJ as well.

I hope this is correct now!

Konstantin

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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
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Mario,
I would appreciate info on how fast the scrapping will progress! I hope something will still be left this weekend...
Konstantin



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User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Is there any chance to get some small pieces of the scrapped planes? Or will the SkyShop bring out a new edition of former 747-200s...? A nice desk made out of parts or so... But if they do I guess nobody will be able to pay it...

Shame on those that made that decision to chop them up...

Regards,
Max
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User currently offlineLMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Sorry to hear about -YM. What about -ZE? Is it true that it is flying in Madagascar? I flew on these two birds.

User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Why are they scrapping the birds ? They cannot be that run down that LH could not sell them to, say, Kabo Air, European Aviation, Air Atlanta etc. Maintained by LH Technik, they for sure must be in perfect condition and they are not that old. Quite surprising that all LH can get out of them is the price of some tons of metal.

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

to be scrapped in Hahn, of all places in the world, in front of Ryanair aircraft....Good Lord, what a terrible fate for these old reliable battle-horses.
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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

In order to sell them you´d probably have to wait some time during which you have to pay the storage cost.
As opposed to that, scrapping is easy money right now.

In essence, another one of those short sighted decisions propelled by purely shareholder value oriented thinking.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

btw, any word one the museum rumours?
Daniel Smile


User currently offlineSkippy777 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2001, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

where would you store one.

In front of your house.

A bit too big I rhink


User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
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Halo Konstantin

mail mir doch bitte unter mario.freese@t-online.de, dann können wir uns weiter mailen  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Mario
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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7370 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2003 times:
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When I saw the topic header, I thought they were starting "Baby Lufty" in competition with Ryanair  Wink/being sarcastic

David/MAN


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1988 times:
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Yeah, it must be a triumph for O'Leary to see his ever growing number of HHN flights depart over scrapped LH 747s...

Konstantin



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User currently offlineLufthansa404 From Germany, joined Aug 2001, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

;( Sad, thought YQ could have been going to the Sinsheim museum? Any update on that? I flew that nice baby from FRA-JFK sniff sniff
Bye bye old 742!


User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1914 times:

According to Bill Harms´ website, former D-ABZE (which was used on the FRA-YYZ-FRA route until a few days ago) is now with Air Madagascar...
So D-ABZH seems to be the only 742 which is still in service for LH, although I´m not sure whether the FRA-YYZ-FRA leg can be covered by only one airplane, so maybe they already use an A340-300.

Regards,
Daniel


User currently offlineAviationIvi From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 777 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

ZE is gone??? Yesterday, while taking some night shots, ZH was used for the Toronto flight, but a few days ago, ZE and ZH were still flying together, even to JFK!
ZE on Jan, 4th:

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User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3997 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

As far as I know, ZE and ZH are scheduled to fly for LH until Jan. 22.

User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

I don´t know about ZE´s fate personally but here is the link to Bill Harms´ website:
http://www.bird.ch/bharms/asr_sh00.htm

You can find an Air Madagascar 747-200. Its former registration is D-ABZE.

By the way: LH has received their newest B747-400 (D-ABTK). It was delivered on 12/19/01.
Does anybody know if it is already in passenger service?
I can´t wait for the first photos of this new bird.


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1901 times:
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The Air Madagascar story is wrong, AFAIK.
BTW, it was a different carrier than Air Mad who wanted to lease it, but the deal fell throug´h.

I've seen -TK a few days ago. It's not in revenue service yet.

Konstantin



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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3150 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
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Finally, some reliable data:

D-ABYM:
last flight Oct 14 from BOM, still in FRA,
to be flown to HHN for scrapping

D-ABYP:
last service on Nov 5 from JFK
flown to MZJ via PHX on Dec 7

D-ABYQ:
last service on Oct 28 from JFK
flown to HHN on Dec 22, scrapping has begun on Jan 11

D-ABYR:
last service on Nov 6 from BOM
flown to HHN on Jan 14

D-ABYX:
last service on Oct 27 from BOM
flown to MZJ via PHX on Dec 5

D-ABZD:
last service on Nov 6 from MIA
flown to MZJ via PHX on Dec 6

D-ABZE:
still in service (later to MZJ?)

D-ABZH:
still in service (later to MZJ?)

Konstantin



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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

Thank you for that clear information, Konstantin
I guess the 742 flight from Frankfurt to Toronto will be switched to an A340-300 next week (according to LH´s online schedule).

Regards,
Daniel


25 Fly-K : I heard today that there will be no LH 742 going to a museum... :-( Konstantin
26 Fly-K : Latest update: -YQ is almost entirely torn up. Taken apart by bulldozers in a more brutal way than at the usual boneyards. :-( I wonder if it still ma
27 Post contains links Godbless : Well I'm not a pilot but I would do everything to support them! Max http://www.IntAviation.de
28 Frankm : Any photos yet? I hope the initiative will be successfull....! Frank
29 9V-SPF : Is there any website where information about that initiative can be found?
30 Lufthansa404 : Yah would also like to help. They cant destroy all of em ;( Any info who is leading that campaing? Cheers Jan
31 310_engineer : Just been at HNN, One is allready scrapped and another one is in the hangar to be scrapped. Don't know any registrations.
32 Post contains links and images AviationIvi : 310_engineer: -YQ scrapped Click for large versionPhoto © Ivica Ramljak - FRA Spotting Regards, Ivica
33 Fly-K : I was at HHN today, all I could see were a few piles of scrap. Very sad sight... And the photos wouldn't qualify for this site, I guess, as it's unide
34 Vfw614 : The three a/c scrapped at HHN were sold by Lufthansa to Lufthansa Technik for parting out. So legally, all this has nothing to do with Lufthansa (the
35 9V-SPF : Already three 742´s have been scrapped? Could you post the registrations of these poor birds? I guess they have chosen -YM and -YP.?!
36 AviationIvi : -YM is still here in FRA and will be flown to Baden Baden. I guess you can see her in a museum soon. (that´s the latest info I have) Regards, Ivica
37 9V-SPF : This would mean that -YM is still in Frankfurt, wouldn´t it? Maybe they are still considering the museum-alternative...this would be so nice.
38 Fly-K : This is so confusing, new info every day. But it's also a fact that three have been sold to LH Technik for parting out, and that should include YM. An
39 Usa4624 : I guess -YM is the 742 going to the museum in Sinsheim? --- Quote --- -YM is still here in FRA and will be flown to Baden Baden. I guess you can see h
40 Hkgspotter1 : Do you guys know about that German couple that collect REAL aircraft ?. They live in a big house and the grounds are full of planes and helicopters. T
41 Post contains links and images Fly-K : This is the museum in Hermeskeil (roughly between Hahn Airport and Luxembourg, in the middle of nowhere). Nice museum though, but as it looks right no
42 AirCanadaGuy : ZE was in YYZ on Jan 21...Si it's still going! ACG
43 Post contains links and images Godbless : After all it looks great for YM now Sorry if I'm kinda a YM-freak but that plane is just something special... The last time I saw it in FRA I got real
44 Post contains images Fly-K : No problem, "Yankee Max"
45 Vfw614 : ZE was in YYZ on Jan 21...Si it's still going! A couple of weeks ago, a Lufthansa source gave Jan 22nd as the last day of 747-200 operations; so you m
46 Vfw614 : With the last Lufthansa Boeing 747-200 leaving the fleet in January and everybody mourning their departure (see the "Three LH742s at HHN thread), I am
47 Post contains links Godbless : Vfw614, Did the pilot tell you what he would do? Is he going to retire early or switch to the 744/A340? I mean it seems as if LH has more then plenty
48 AviationIvi : no speculation anymore! YM will have her last flight on Monday and can be seen in the museum in Sinsheim very soon. for our german speaking readers (s
49 Post contains images 9V-SPF : Really? It´s hard to bleieve but it seems to be true: -YM goes to the museum and will rest there in peace I can´t wait to visit the Technik Museum w
50 Post contains images Andreas : I'm actually considering to take a day off next Monday, I got nearly all my 2001 holidays left, and this sounds just like a great idea to spend one of
51 Na : That is great news. For a long time now D-ABYM served as the Oldie of the LH-fleet. I´m happy to hear it´ll have a second life.
52 Post contains links and images Fanofjets : Some former LH Jumbos that have met similar cruel fates: Click for large versionPhoto © Andy Martin Sold to Aer Lingus Click for large versionPho
53 Fly-K : Here are two photos I took at HHN this Sunday. I don't know if they can make it into this database, so you might want to view them now. http://www.air
54 Post contains images AviationIvi : oh no! Regards, Ivica
55 Vfw614 : If it is -YM, I am lead to believe that the aircraft was actually donated by Lufthansa Technik, not Lufthansa (which might explain why LH did not know
56 Lufthansa404 : WOW! I am SOO happy to hear a D-ABYM made it to the museum! WOW WOW WOW! Yipppie that is kick ass. They even gut a Tu-144 there, a must visit! Cheers
57 Fly-K : ZE will fly to PHX (and on to MZJ) on JAN25, ZH will follow on JAN26. Unfortunately, YM will fly to FKB without seats, so no hopes for a ride... Konst
58 Lufthansa404 : I talked to the guys of the museum, they told me that they expect the aircraft at 11:00 lcl Monday 28th January at the Baden-Airpark Airport (EDSB/FKB
59 LH744 : These are really great news to hear that at least one of those workhorses stay in good condition (not scrapped as YQ) near its old homebase!!! I´ll b
60 Post contains links and images Godbless : LH744, Yes, you are right. It's cool that "Yankee-Max" (I really like that one, Fly-k ) is the lucky one to stay here in Germany. I guess I'll buy an
61 Fly-K : LH744, I guess Marana has no customs/immigration facilities. Konstantin
62 TF-FIW : Sorry to ask - but what is so special on YM compared to the other LH 747s ? Rgds Ol
63 Post contains links Godbless : YM was the oldest plane in the LH fleet. For me it is just a special bird... Max http://www.IntAviation.de.vu
64 Flpuck6 : Regarding the stop in Phoenix: Aircraft from foreign countries headed to the Western part of the US stop in Phoenix because taxes are less. In the las
65 Post contains links and images Rapo : Wow, what a coincidence: I was fortunate enough to fly on both ZE & ZH last October. I wish I had known then that their days were numbered. Great flig
66 AviationIvi : "...they expect the aircraft at 11:00 lcl Monday 28th January at the Baden-Airpark Airport (EDSB/FKB)..." hmmm, not a pretty nice time, but I´ll try
67 RoyalDutch : Hey, Where is Sinsheim? I think that is awesome that they are preserving -YM, and I'd really like to see it...maybe take a trip over sometime. What pa
68 9V-SPF : Actually, the 747 will be brought to the Technik museum in Speyer, not to Sinsheim (both places are not far from each other though). The nearest bette
69 RoyalDutch : 9V-SPF - Thanks...East or West of Frankfurt?
70 Post contains images AviationIvi : southern Regards, Ivica
71 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : Hmm, I´m considering going to Karlsruhe and having a look at this - Mannheim is not too far... TV channels are probably jumping for joy right now, th
72 310_engineer : Latest update about the second LH 747 at HNN (still no reg's): The tailsection has been taken off and goes to a museum aswell. Tomorrow (sat 26/01) th
73 Post contains links and images 9V-SPF : Here is a link where you can find some more pictures of -YQ being scrapped: http://www.aviationpics.de/scrap/abyq/page_01.htm Very sad indeed.
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