Planespotterx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4701 times:
hi does anyone know of any extremely dangerous/hazardous airports in the world (Eg Kathmandu or Catalunya) any references would be useful indeed, also if you know what kind of aircraft are able to use these airfields
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4520 times:
well I did not feel 100% safe last time I flew into Bogota in the mid 90's I do not know if the airport has better security now. Most large planes use the airport.
I fly quite regularly around Belize and many of it's small dirt strip airports are interesting, like Dangriga and Corozal. There is no security at these little sites just a strip and a small building for one worker and some benches. The strip goes right to the edge of the Caribean at Dangriga. ONly islanders and cessna's use these. I've gotgreat picks of the 'Terminal' shack at Dangriga and of Cessna crash in the Mountains near the Jungle preserve.
IN Afirca I flew from Banjul to some strip in Senegal that seemed 'shady' but the oil companies pay for security so it wasn't a problem. I don't know if I'd go back with that security.
Carduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4470 times:
I visited Funchal many times in the early 80s when I was Area Controller Hotel and Ground contracts for BA Holidays. It was always an 'exciting' experience!
In those days the runway was not long enough to get to UK, so most a/c took a short hop to nearby Porto Santo (a NATO base) to take more fuel for the far longer runway, or came up via FAO in S Portugal.
Notice the extension is on stilts on reclaimed land!
Carduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4440 times:
Looking at the picture, it reminded me of the nasty downdraft from the steep hills in the background - on occasions there were some very nasty crosswinds.
BTW - the other end of the runway also looks straight over the sea!
Per Ardua ad Astra! ........ Honi Soit Qui Mal y Pense!
BaliMorris From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4384 times:
I remember watching a Lonely Planet travel program on Laos, where Ian Wright looked pretty nervous on a domestic flight. Apparently the Americans had bombed poor Laos beyond belief some years ago and about a third of the bombs they dropped did not explode. These unexploded bombs, for some bizarre reason, are a favourite souvenir of some tourists to the region, including many of the passengers on his flight. Needless to say, security is just about non-existent. I'd imagine there are a number of countries apart from Laos that suffer from the same lack of airport security.
Also, I've seen signs posted at security checkpoints at Houston Intercontinental that single out Lagos, Nigeria as having particularly poor security.
BaliMorris From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4381 times:
Ah! You meant airports that are dangerous for reasons other than security, did you? Don't know if it's true or not, but I think someone mentioned that Islamabad, Pakistan was a bit of a tricky one due to it's proximity to mountains.
Cabal From Colombia, joined Sep 2001, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4283 times:
I've flown to Quito (jumpseater) and is very tricky landing you pass the VOR southbound and then turn 180 degress to the north and in between the valley, there's your runway which by the way is short and half uphill and half downhill and so by the time of your touchdown you are only seeing half of the runway and thinking 'Was coming to Quito a good idea ??' full brakes and full reversers and well you made it....this time....
737-8K5 From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4265 times:
funchal is really a "heavy" one.
I had the luck to have a jumpseat landing there, with a Hapag-Lloyd A 310. Unbelievable, this approach!
But nowadays, they have a runway of almost 2800m, but before they extended it, it was only 1800m. At that time Hapag was the only airline to land there with a widebody airliner, its A 310. And only a handfull of pilots were allowed to land there, they needed (and still need) special training for that airport.
Klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2082 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4191 times:
I have flown into TGU, UIO, and BOG... The landing at TGU is quite an experience! Unreal! I remember that hill, people standing on it can just about strike the plane with rocks it is so close! There are no runway lights. Landings are only allowed during daylight, clear weather hours.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6332 posts, RR: 33
Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4131 times:
I notice that the airports listed above, although tricky, have very good safety records in general. LAX is considered one of the most dangerous in the world by pilots but, it too has an excellent safety record.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4113 times:
Tenerife Norte is VERY susceptible to fog, so much so that pax flights were being diverted so regularly to Tenerife South that all pax flights to TN were stopped for several years. Also, the main runway has no taxiway....so depending on prevailing winds, a/c must taxi along the active runway....which was a contributing factor in the collision.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
AirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4081 times:
I would definately consider Cheddi Jagan International Airport in Georgetown, Guyana to be one of the worlds most dangerous. The field, which lies atop a cliff, surrounded by dense Amazon jungle on all sides, can accomodate a B757/767 at most. Although BWIA West Indies Airways flew the L-1011 Tri-Star for a few years, it was only granted approval after the airline agreed to strictly monitor aircraft weight. Tower Air tried unsucessfully a few years ago to operate a B747 on the JFK-Georgetown route and was denied, as was Leisure Air, when they requested to operate the same route using a DC-10.
At present, the largest visitiors are Universal Airlines' B767 and North American Airlines B757/737 from New York, followed by BWIA's B737/MD83. I flew into the airport 2 years ago with Guyana Air 2000's B757 (dissolved April 2001). Although the take off was quite smooth, the landing is something to remember. It was definately one of the hardest I can remember, and I've never felt reverse thrusters applied as hard as I did that day. I think it was the first time I realized how useful seatbelts really are, seeing as I nearly fell out of my seat.
As if that wasn't dangerous enough for your taste, the airport only has emergency certification for an aircraft the size of a Dash 8. In other words, should your B757 encounter a fire or other emergency on landing, you'd really be out of luck, seeing as they only have enough crash/rescue/fire equipment to cover a Turbo Prop. Definately not for the light of heart.
T prop From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1029 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
I heard the trip to Paro is a white knuckle event.
cut and pasted the info below from Druk Air's website:
Nestling in the Himalayas, between Tibet and India’s Assam Plain, the kingdom of Bhutan offers a variety of climates, from the hot and humid jungles of the southern foothills to frigid snow-capped peaks in the north, which rise to 7,700 metres.
This country of 600,000 people is the last surviving Mahayana Buddhist state which has shaped the nation’s history, and it plays a vital role in everyday life. Bhutan is renowned for its undiluted culture and unspoiled natural wonders. Bhutan’s past is still it's present, its religion still a way of life. The last Shangrila.
Druk Air, the National Flag carrier of the Kingdom of Bhutan was established by a Royal Proclamation on the 05th of April, 1981. January 14th 1983 began the commencement of Druk Air’s operation when the German manufactured 18 seater Dornier 228-200 touched down at Paro airport bearing the Royal Flag of the Kingdom of Bhutan. On the Dornier, Druk Air operated to Calcutta in India and Dhaka in Bangladesh.
Paro is the only airport in Bhutan which is located in a deep valley at an elevation of 7300 ft above sea level. The surrounding hills are high as 16,000 ft and approach into Paro airport is entirely by visual flight rules. Due to the difficult operating conditions, operations with the Dornier 228 caused many delays and diversions. With the growth of traffic and the expansion of flights the need for a larger aircraft became necessary. After conducting numerous tests taking into account the difficult operating conditions the British Aerospace BAe 146-100 was selected and started operations in November 1988. Within a short span of its introduction the network of Druk Air increased to link Paro with New-Delhi, Bangkok and Kathmandu. From two destinations in 1983 today Druk Air operates from Paro four times a week to Bangkok and Calcutta, twicw to Kathmandu and Delhi and once a week to Dhaka and Yangon.
Maybe the smallest national carrier in the world, Druk-Air has a fleet of two BAe-146 aircraft. An international flight crew and hostesses trained by Thai Airways International give the airline its credibility and charm.
Druk-Air is the only airline that serves Paro. So all visitors to Bhutan are initiated into the kingdom in its care. The flight into Paro is one of the most spectacular in the world. Whether flying along the Himalayan range from Kathmandu or over the foothills from Calcutta or Dhaka, each flight is mesmerising aeronautical feat and offers an exciting descent into the kingdom.
Nighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5178 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3976 times:
I remember seeing a documentary on druk air once on tv, and the approach to that airport is pretty spectacular! The country itself is very spectacular too, despite having virtually no connections to the outside world, the airline is currently training up a few citizens to run the airline. The eventual aim is to have the airline entirely run by the countries citizens. An amazing feat when you consider there isnt a single TV in the country, or a car.
The doc also mentioned that they were planning to build a second air strip in a different half of the country, to accomodate more flights and to use as a backup incase the primary was unusable due to weather. Anyone else know any more?
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8031 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3948 times:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned San Diego, CA's Lindbergh Field (SAN).
Between that six-story parking structure at the south end of the runway and the hills beyond the north end of the runway, I'm surprised there hasn't been a rash of accidents there in the last 40 years. They need to remove that parking structure before a plane plows into it during landing approach and causes a horrible tragedy.
Ben88 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1093 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (12 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3897 times:
Well in the U.S. it would probably be LAX. The airport is poorly designed and that has led to it being the leader in runway incursions and near misses in the United States. You should see the Jan 2002 runway incursion report...scary. Mix in the fact that half of the intl. pilots don't speak English properly and you have planes in the middle of a runway after they are asked to hold short.
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