Andreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 34 Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1422 times:
Do you have any information about the airlines, that will fly the GECAS and the ILFC units? Are these already leased out (Well at least the ILFC units will be, they never order aircraft without watertight lease contracts)?
Regards
Andreas
btw: Thanx for the pics, looks great!
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 39 Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1281 times:
If I remember correct 6 of the ILFC A318s will go to Frontier. However it seems that just recently two lessorsconverted A318 orders into large A320-family version.
Steman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1275 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1257 times:
Hasn't TAM ordered some at the last Paris Air Show?
I imagine that now the A318 is flying, more airlines will place orders for it. What about Alitalia, Iberia and some other A320 user?
Steman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1275 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1256 times:
The A318 is equipped with PW6000 engines, which have an integral nacell not like the CFM56.
IIRC also the CFM56 is available on this model afetr Air France pushed on Airbus for it, as it would save a lot of money in a fleet with CFM56 powered aircrafts, like AIr France's.
Il76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2235 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1246 times:
Yes, PW6000, excuse me... I accidently typed 8000.
Anyway, I read that the A318 program was slowed down due to problems with the PW6000. But the first A318 prototype HAS PW6000's, if Steman is right. So what about these problems with PW6000's? Are they just not meeting their predicted performance, but ARE operational for the testplane?
Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 39 Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1208 times:
Yes, TAM has signed a LoI for 20+20 A318 during the Aerosalon. If I remember correct it was only partly firmed up, they currently have 18 options but no firm orders for it.
Steman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1275 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1197 times:
If TAM hasn't signed any firm order yet I imagine that they haven't chosen the engine either!
TAM uses V2500 on its A319 and A320. They should be disappointed that Airbus and IAE don't offer a derated version of this engine for the A318.
The big advantage of the A318 over its competitors (B737-600 and B717) is its commonality with the other member of the Airbus single aisle family. But if you have to put in service a small number of A318 with a different engine from the rest of the fleet, this advantage is less visible, don't you agree?
Fly707 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 343 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1188 times:
What about Rolls Royce engines ?
What happened to TWA order for 30 AB318 ??
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7695 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1144 times:
All I can say is that the A318 at certain angles reminds me a lot of the original Fat Albert 737-100's that LH flew for many years.
Now, if Airbus is willing to build an A318 with slightly less fuel capacity but with a stronger structure for high-frequency operations, they could get both NW and AC interested in buying the plane as DC-9/F-28 replacements.
Fly707 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 343 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 979 times:
There are no RR engines on any A320-family aircraft. RR is only in this business via the IAE V2500 engine.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11135 posts, RR: 61 Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 959 times:
Flying-Tiger,
A minor correction. Frontier bought 5 A318s from Airbus, and they will be leasing 1 from ILFC.
Just on a side note, Frontier will be recieving there 6th A319 next month.
Regards.
"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
310_engineer From Belgium, joined Dec 2000, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 952 times:
Fly707:
The V2500 engine is the product of International Aero Engines (IAE), a collaborative venture of four of the world's leading aerospace companies: Pratt & Whitney, Rolls-Royce, Japanese Aero Engines and MTU.
Each partner is responsible for part of the engine, offering airlines operating and economic advantages. The V2500 has the lowest fuel burn in the 22,000-33,000-pound-thrust class. Its operational performance is matched by its environmental performance; the engine is so quiet that its noise footprint barely leaves the runway.
The V2500 entered service in 1989 on the Airbus A320 and later was selected to power the A321 and A319 derivatives. Another version of the engine exclusively powers the Boeing MD-90.
Serge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 927 times:
25 SafeFlyer: For those here who don't understand french, here is the translation of the link posted above, by Flying-Tiger; 15 January, 2001, First flight of the A
26 Zeus01: What a sweet little plane!!! Hope NW picks up some of these!!!
27 Usairways85: anyone know when the first commercial flight of the 318 will be?
28 Mark_D.: Usairways85-- well first let's see if it makes it through flight test, then certification, on-time (slated for 3rd quarter, of this year). Seems there
29 Ntcrawler: It's adorable!!! So that's what an Airbus newborn looks like Then as it grows older (teenage years) it becomes the A320, and by adulthood it becomes t
30 Steman: Hi, you forgot to mention that in the IAE group there is also FIAT AVIO of Italy, which doesn't have a marginal stake in the programme and is the worl
31 Ganymed: I didn´t know that the A318 has different powerplant than the rest of the A320 family. Fleet commonanlity ´s suffering from this situation a little
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