CcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2204 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 906 times:
I found this out yesterday and I wanted to know what you think.
In ORD this muslim lady went through O'Hare and through the screening process and she was asked to take off her head scarf off even though she didn't set off the metal detectors(both walk-through and handheld) she said that she wasn't supposed to take it off while there were men around and in public. So they went into a private room to be searched and then they wanted her to strip down to be searched too. After the ordeal ahe is planning to sue Argenbright security for this.
What do you think about this is it stupid or just plain nonsense?
"He was right, it is a screaming metal deathtrap!"-Cosmo (from the Fairly Oddparents)
CcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2204 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 829 times:
She thought that she was searched because of her religion and because she was muslim. The wierd thing was that she was still searched even though she didn't set off anything.
"He was right, it is a screaming metal deathtrap!"-Cosmo (from the Fairly Oddparents)
Aviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 797 times:
This topic has already been discussed to death and has been archived already.
Do a search before posting more to this thread.
Plus Ccrlr....your brief summation leaves out that she was surrounded by National Guard troops, plus other "trivial" information which has been been left.
But do a search in the archives, and you will find the thread.
LON-CHI From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 219 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 768 times:
Two weeks ago at ORD I was stopped before boarding a domestic flight and searched (body and bag). Earlier this week at ORD, I passed through the metal detector without setting it off, but I was still pulled aside and patted down. Maybe I'll sue as well!
Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 762 times:
this topic was discussed before.
true that i am muslim, but as it is said that she was taken to a private room, then i dont see aproblem, why is she suing?
Wadha From United Arab Emirates, joined Mar 2000, 185 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 753 times:
um! now why is she suing after being searched in a private room? some thing is missing here.. either she is following the "sue this and sue that" thing, or there is some thing that wasnt mention
Twa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 739 times:
i heard about it on the radio this morning... the woman was flying from Chicago to Columbus OH, she went through security without setting off the alarm, but the screeners told her to take off the head dress thing, and she said she would not do it in public. They took her to a search room or whatever its called. She took it off, they found nothing, she put it back on and continued on to her plane and flew without delay to Columbus.
What is there to sue? She says it was for relegious reasons. Now what the? You could hide some weapon in any piece of clothing. Anyways most people put their hats through the carry on x-ray, but since it was against her relegion she did not, they can ask her to, its not because she's muslim, it's because she could hide a weapon in there, and everyone else takes off jackets, hats, etc...
twa902
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
BlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1870 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 740 times:
I brought this topic up a few weeks. Basically the same thing happened, in this case, the headscarf (burkaq i think it is called, please correct me) was removied from the lady in public. The outcry of 99% of the posters was private booths should be established, and any muslim lady who does not wish to remove that piece of clothing in public, should be brought to those private booths and remove it only in the presence of a female securty employee.
It was pretty open and shut, that is what they should do, this simply adds the twist that the metal detector didn't go off. She was brought to a private room, which is a step in the right direction, but why the strip search ordered?
Again, it comes down to poorly educated security workers (what was it, 50% haven't graduated HS??) who are trying to play God, and the world (US most specifically) being sue happy over any "inconvinience"
Too bad, but do a search, my post got about 150 replies. Beaten to death
Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 739 times:
Lot767-300ER, i think your attitude is harsh a little bit
Twa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 722 times:
She didn't take it off in public BlatantEcho.
She was asked to
She asked to take it off in a room in private
They granted her this
They found nothing
She was on her way
She's using her religion against these screeners, and suing them. So I am guessing every muslim who is asked to do anything should sue?? No. It's just stupid people like this woman, as an individual having nothing to do with her relegion.
They let her go after a couple minutes
She got to CMH
what does she care?
twa902
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
Baec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 700 times:
I am a muslim guy, and that she is right about that, that is our culture in clothing too, so why calling her stupid...?? My mom & sister, and my wife as well wear a headscarf, and they never asked them to take it off, thats our religion not to do what security/securities asked us to do. If she wants to SUE the people, that's her problem !!!!!!!! I dont blame her !!
Baec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 677 times:
Oh Well, Thats not a problem as long Private sections are installed for each group like for "{Men Alone}" & "{Women Alone}".
Magyar From Hungary, joined Feb 2000, 596 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 656 times:
LOT767-300ER wrote:
>>
People like this should be deported from the USA if they dont like it here. God help those people who just sue and complain and bitch all the time. You dont like it here? Fine leave and shutup.
<<
Uhm, how do you know that she was not a US citizen?
I don't know, but her ``sueing'' habit seems very american
(I would not be surprised if a foreign national who happened
to be muslim, would rather try to keep low profile nowadays).
Anyway, I don't think that you and your alikes sets what
is the USA and what should be liked about it and who
goes where. Also, let me remind you that unless you are
native american you and your family is not the first on this
land either and when the native americans expressed a
kind of ``if you don't like our way you can go home'' opinion,
I don't remember anyone going home.
FSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 14 Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 639 times:
There must me more to this story...why is she suing?? She was taken to a private room for searching...I think it was pretty stupid of them to make her strip down to search her more, but...it was a private room. Maybe the security guard thought.."hmm...while we're here..." I don't know..there must be more.
Jsuen From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 211 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 627 times:
I agree. Nothing is as clear cut as it seems. There's going to be plenty of finger pointing.
Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 606 times:
guys,
in Dubai they do this all the time, women get searched in private places by female federal marshalls and get striped down. they didnt sue, so what is her problem?
ILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 588 times:
that whole thing of being searched even though you don't beep isn't true.
I got the full patdown and remove your belt thing at Fra even though I didn"t beep either times.
Wadha From United Arab Emirates, joined Mar 2000, 185 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 538 times:
now, i was against taking our scarves in public. but as i hear that she went in a private room, i have no more comment on this stupidity and nonsense!
25 EjayMD11: Read the post again very very slowly. I read striped and searched after she removed her head scarf. Ejay MD-11
26 OD-BWH: Guys... Take it easy. I don't think there's any thing wrong with searching people! I've heared that these are picked randomly for security reaons!!! I
27 VirginA340: She is simply out for the money. Argenbrite of chicago actually does something right and is sued for it. Outrageuos! She was taken into a privateroom
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