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Is Domestic First Class A Waste?  
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Not trans-cons or other long distance flights. I mean 737, 757 and MD-80 first class.

Are they worth the cost?


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User currently offlineSkippy777 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2001, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

YES IT IS.

Long_haul is different but short haul is a waste of your money.


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Absolutley. First...to upgrade. Second, when connecting to an overseas flight when travelling in Business Class you need a premium cabin.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

It's a total farce!

If US Domestic First Class was served to me on a Singapore Airlines flight, I would choke and walk to SIN and give my Cheong a good telling off!

No bed, no big screen! How is THAT First Class?!



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User currently offlineIwareboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

First Class is just a perk for Frequent Travelers and employees. Most people who do pay for it are flying at the last minute, when nothing else is available.

-Sean


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1481 times:

A waste for passengers, but a great perk for non-revs. But what is interesting, is that certain city pairs have large numbers of business pax that fly up front, usually because they upgrade of their on the company's dime. So in my own opinion, if the flight is less than 2 and a half hours, upfront is a waste of time, unless you've upgraded for free, or are a non-rev.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7760 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1474 times:

If it wasn't worth it to the airlines it wouldn't be there... plain and simple.


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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3120 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1468 times:

First class is not a seat. It is the way we act.


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User currently offlineMikeymike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1463 times:

I agree 100% with DesertJets

User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1461 times:

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say "first class is the way we act". Oh puh-leeeeeze gag barf wretch.

Let us frame the overall question this way.

You are paying to rent a seat in an aluminum tube that is going to travel from one airport to another in from 1 to 6 hours.

There is no lasting benefit to having ridden first class...true, the meal portions in F are about 1/3rd bigger than in Y but my opinion on that is why are you better off to get 1/3rd more glop?

First Class, especially on domestic flights, is for people who want to trade their FF mileage for a bigger seat and/or free cocktails instead of keeping them for another flight which, based upon certain airlines' historic stinginess in allocating seats for FF use...may not be a bad idea.

But anyone who would pay for F needs their head examined. Businesses that throw money away by flying their employees in F need their stockholders and customers to rise up in protest.

Folks in F don't act any more suave, sophisticated, debonair, or any less gauche than those in cauche (good one, eh?).

In fact, folks with REAL money can be found in Y, because they didn't come by that money by throwing it away on F airplane tickets.

I am not convinced that F is not for folks who are insecure about their station in life, and think if they sit "in front of the curtain" people will see them as much finer people than they actually are.

Back to the question? Is domestic F worth it? Not only no but hell no. If you feel compelled to throw your good money away on F tickets I have some beachfront property in Nevada you might be interested in.


User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

Domestic first is not a complete waste of money. If I just shelled out 3 grand for a buisness class ticket from say eze-dfw (not direct has a stop in miami) and I get great service on the eze-mia leg then on the mia-dfw flight I sit next to fat mary sue who loves telling me about her dawgs I would be very very pissed off!

Here is the service you get on a typical 2 and 1/2 hour coach class trip on AA-
-Wait in a huge line going out the door to check in any bags that you will not see for days.
-Wait in another huge line at the gate because everyone is too stuiped to board when they are supposed to!
-By the time the plane takes off you're legs already are feeling the pain (I know mine do)
-About an hour thru the flight you will eventually get a drink if they are not already out of the drink you want.
-You will get a pack of something really salty that will make you thursty even after you drink your 4 fluid ounces of soda. By the way beer and mixed drinks cost from $3 to $5.
-After landing all hell breaks loose and you are off the plane no earlier then 5-10 minutes after the doors have been opened. Have fun finding your carry on that you had to stow by seat 40 because joe stink but had to bring 5 carry ons onboard.
- After the last bag is delivered on the carousel you blow up at the incompetent lady trying to get enough money to buy a pair of under wear and toothbrush to get you through tomorow until your bags arrive.
-You get to do it again on the way home!

Here is First class-
-Wait in a line of about 2-5 people to check your bags priority.
-board before everyone else and smile as you are actually allowed to board as suzy red neck smelly but tryed to board before you but was denied because she didnt realize first class boarding was not her.
-Smile again as you see her walk by you with 8 carry ons and a stench that goes away when you're cup of coffe or desired beverage is served to you in a GLASS cup.
-Enjoy as much beverage as you can before the flight attendant kindly removes your glass before take off (rememebr that last coach flight you had where your plastice cup wasn't disposed off unitil the plane was on final and your tray table had been down for hours causing your legs to get blood clots?).
-During taxi the flight attendant will take your order for what food you want. The food is nothing special but it is edible and passes the time.
- Keep on drinking, and eat as many freshly made cookies as you want. Last flight I had 3 cookies and was offered many times if I wanted more.
- Listen to your Mini Disc player and easily fall asleep in a decently comfertable seat for a good hour of sleep with a full tummy and no carts hitting you in the elbow.
- If you have to go to the bathroom no worrys, there is rarely a line and even if your ONE neighbor is sleeping you can easily get by him/her without disturbing. On your way to the bathroom see if there is any nudity in the movie a buisness man is "working" on with his laptop and dvd player at the bulkhead.
- You are first off after landing and your carry on is right above you as you leave seconds after the airplane door has been opened.
- Don't forget to say a final thank you (which unlike most buisness men in first don't say too often I may add!)
- Your bag should be one of the first ones off the carousel. If it didnt make it you will be givin a voucher to buy some items to keep you going until your bags arrive.
- You are well rested and in a good mood, and you can look forward to your flight back home to see you family/ dogs/ fish/ ect.

Now if you want traveling to be an experience that you don't dread then spend the money or miles. If you are red neck joe and would rather buy another pair of over alls then please don't wear them if you actually make it up front one day!

Don't forget to say please and thank you to the FA's! Sometimes I think I am the only one!



User currently offlineSegmentKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

I always say thanks to them and give them my card....

check out my thread here:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/709937/

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

Take a look at the amount of first class seats on MD-80's, 737's, A320's, etc. There are maybe 3-4 rows at most. First class on a shorter distance flight is a complete waste of money. It is there mainly as a perk for business travellers who frequently are booked on full Y fare tickets (they need the flexibility to change dates, etc. without penalty), and upgrade as a perk of being an elite. Now a transcon is different. First class would be worth it on say, LAX-JFK or the like. Business class would also be well worth it on an international longhaul. I just flew CDG-IAH 2 weeks ago, and did those business class seats look comfy!

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