FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 861 times:
It's those Russian made clocks they have that screw up the whole system!
FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 848 times:
The best guesses that I can give are:
1. That the aircraft was delayed upon departure from a different (European) city, and wasn't allowed enough time be serviced (same as yours).
2. The crew working that flight have been scheduled with their flying hours too close, and by law, they must have their legal rest (which is pretty notorious for delays).
HZ-AKF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 831 times:
I don't work for UA so this is gonna be pretty tough but here goes....
UA 943 CDG (Paris)-ORD (Chicago) 12:02pm 1:35pm
[B777-200]
ORD (Chicago)-SEA (Seattle) 4:04pm 5:56pm
The answer to your question is probably this:
Paris CDG is hugely congested so this flight nearly always leaves late. It arrives in Chicago at precisely the evening rush period, has to dump its full huge load of international pax and all there tons of luggage, then taxi out of the international concourse. When all is said and done and passengers for ORD-SEA are loaded, it will proabably be 15th in line for takeoff.
FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 818 times:
Or another possible reason:
United just doesn't do that great of a job with on-time arrival/departures?!
HZ-AKF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 813 times:
Can it be? The great FLY777UAL shedding light on a potential weakness with his beloved airline?
Just kidding
I think it'd be interesting to check the ontime departures of everything out of ORD leaving at that time. If I'm bored enough I just might do it.
Stay tuned and visit scenic Winnipeg.
FLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 805 times:
We prefer not to call it a "potential weakness", but a, "damn big problem".
FlyBoy From United States of America, joined May 1999, 85 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 802 times:
In response to HZ-AKFs statement, he is probably correct in that the arriving flight is delayed and therefore the connecting passengers coming from CDG are also delayed and that UAL wants to keep those passengers on the same flight instead of having 20 or so people upset because they "missed" their flight. That is my best guess
Hypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 802 times:
I had the same problem with US Airways flight 894. This flight originates at CLT, stops in PHL, before continuing onto FRA.
Every Friday, this flight was late. After the fourth consecutive week, I started getting a little upset. The gate supervisor told me that th problem was that most of their international flights come into PHL and then continue onto CLT. There are a few that go to PIT then onto CLT, and a few go directly to CLT. Well, this means that most of their 767s come into CLT in a period of a few hours. Keep in mind that all of their 767s are maintained at their CLT base. That means when an aircraft is due for a C-check, they have problems getting the aircraft ready to depart.
Jupiter From Thailand, joined Mar 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 789 times:
I dont mind if they hold back the flight for that reason. Connecting flights cant be perfect.
Can someone tell me why 943 is supposed to be a 757 but today was a DC10?
What causes them to upgrade like that to a larger plane?
Personally I wish it was a 777 and not a DC10
But I was lucky enough to fly on the international 777 with the sleepr suite seats from SEA to ORD instead of the other one with the old first class seats.
Delays are inevitable I suppose but is there a way to guard myself against this? Granted ANY flight out of ORD is not a grea idea but I bought that flight for fear that the prices were going to skyrocket ($178 roundtrip from PVD to SEA is a great deal) I also bought it cause the other airlines had lousy flight choices in comparison.
Turboprops (in winter?!) and out of the way connections (Houston, San Francisco) made me choose the UAL flight.
I bet it will be a DC1O I ride on then since it will be a Saturday.
Are they kept up good? NWA's were enough to give one nightmares.
Unitedchicago From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 797 times:
Well here's a good question...Jupiter...where are you getting your info? How many flights have you tracked that say it's late?
I know UA usually ranks in the middle or bottom, but I am 1K and my flights arrive on-time 90% of the time.
Jupiter From Thailand, joined Mar 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 781 times:
I will continue to fly UAL even if my flight is delayed.
My Aunts flight on Delta was delayed four hours (they said it was because of weather in BOS) Funny how other planes took off on time)
My folks USAirways flight got in about 1.5 hours late do to a canceled flight to BOS affecting a flight to PVD so they could load passengers on. (Their 737 flight because a 757 flight because of that)
My last UAL flight was fine as far as time even in bad weather. It was a different time though than my current choice. I was actually VERY impressed with how UAL operated out of ORD. Far smoother than expected.
However, I just want to make sure I can rent a car in SEA "whenever" we arrive there.
HZ-AKF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 776 times:
The rental car agencies at SeaTac airport should be open 24 hours a day so don't worry about it. Even with the late arrival (around 8:30 pm) most things are open at this time.
For what its worth, the UAL website gave this reason for today's late (144 min late) departure:
"Flight time changed due to aircraft servicing"
You figure it out....the D10 used on this route was probably due to unscheduled maintenance on the 757 involved. The inbound leg from CDG was only 26 min late so this couldn't have accounted for the late departure.
CyberUAL From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 774 times:
Usually on UA when theres a direct flight to/from an international destination, they NEVER use the same aircraft. For example, UA943 CDG-ORD-SEA the CDG-ORD is a 777 then there's a plane change ORD-SEA being another type of a/c usually a 757 767 A319/20. Another good example UA815 ORD-LAX-SYD, ORD-LAX is a 757 or A319 the LAX-SYD is 747-400. Airlines have direct flights, which means one stop and possible plane change, because of marketing reason.
Most likely, when the flight was suppose to arrive from ORD to SEA, it will turn for another flight, therefore, it CANNOT possibly wait for misconnects that long.
Aircraft servicing in UA computer mean "mechanical problems." Furthermore, it is most likely that something was wrong with that DC10, since it's a very old aircraft. Another reason that might cause the delay for yesterday's flight is because ORD has ATC problems. I know that yesterday, ORD was on a ground stop, which means the airport was closed for awhile due to the congestion and the weather condition in ORD. When that happens, it screws up a lot of flights because the inbound a/c that will turn for another flight will be arriving late.
HZ-AKF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 769 times:
Sometimes the inbound international aircraft are of the same type of the continuing domestic leg but it is usually never the exact same aircraft.
For example US 3, FCO-PHL-LAX is all by 762 but the aircraft from FCO-PHL and PHL-LAX are different.
I wonder which a/c (the 757 or D10 was broken in this case). The answer is probably the 757 beyond immediate repair and the D10 that was eventually fixed. Do UAL keep a bunch of D10's around ORD that they use for a/c breakdowns?
Jupiter From Thailand, joined Mar 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 763 times:
But now I remember when I was flying back from SEA to PVD and we had a stopover in ORD. I remember seeing Flt 943 with a problem (I think it was delayed) and sthe aircraft sitting there was a DC10 too.
I remember that it was scheduled to go to SEA because I had left SEA and really really was sad that I had left and very much wanted to go back that second and toyed with the thought of how hard it would be to sneak on a flight back to SEA. (Then I realized my luggage was on another flight and I just soberly decided to fly back to SEA when I ended my job.)
But Flt 943 was having problems then. Delayed for several hours and a DC10 sitting there.
Where is BUZZ when we need him to do a search for what the problem is with that flight?
FlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 998 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 758 times:
Jupiter, your flight will indeed be a 757-200.
The aircraft currently scheduled for this Saturday is N506UA, ship 5406.
Ill check the computer again if I remember to see if it has changed.
Let me know if I'm right!
Luftaom From Australia, joined May 1999, 423 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (13 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 749 times:
I saw that on ZK-NBC an Air NZ 767-200 Auckland to Sydney on Sunday.
Don'r even waste your time its a soppy love story movie.
Best Regards
Bradley Mortimer
Sydney, Australia
25 Jupiter: Darn and I have an aisle seat too. Oh well. I will just work on my plays. Thanks! Perhaps I should keep a log on how many times my elbow gets hit whil
26 HZ-AKF: Well this is gonna blow your lid.... Status: Arrived Airport: Paris, France (CDG) Time: Left the Gate 11:43 am (2 min Early) Gate: V8 Airport: Chicago
27 Jupiter: Cause they know people are on to them now! See what complaining can do!!!
28 Naimas: This is a good post. A concern from a PRO UAL passenger. For another concern from a PRO UAL passenger, read the latest developments in my "What if I a
29 FlyAA757: Still sched as a/c 5406. Have a good flight
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