Jcxp15 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 997 posts, RR: 4 Posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2661 times:
Where do you think AirTran's next couple of cities will be? Do you think they're looking into smaller cities (since Rochester was just added)?
It looks like BWI is going to become a profitable market from them... Will AirTran move out of ATL as hub, and possibly into BWI. Having both as hub's seems unwise since they're so close together.
Also, AirTran has stayed for the most part in the Eastern 1/3rd of the country. I'm sure they'll eventually move west, but any ideas when and where?
LOL... a lot of questions.. I really like AirTran and would love to see them suceed even more so...
I guess in general, what do you foresee as AirTran's future?
5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2438 times:
I think they really need to start new service to some midwest cities (west of the Mississippi). Markets like MCI, OMA, and COS would be a great start. They have virtually no presence West of the Mississippi, tapping into that resource would hardly be a bad move.
Jcxp15 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2386 times:
Man4546... MIA - PNS sounds reasonable, and perhaps likely (with that deal). I mean, US has PNS - TPA..
DL has PNS - MCO... so AirTran's PNS - MCO wouldn't be too bad.
I've taken the TPA - PNS flight several times, and I talked to about 3 people who were coming from MIA (this is only one about 3 or 4 flights) and I know some people who live in PNS who travel to MIA frequently for business, and hate traveling to ATL / TPA / MCO to connect.
DeltaBoy777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 411 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
If they connected from Atlanta to Colorado Springs via Dallas/Fort Worth or Houston (existing cities operated by AirTran) I think it would provide competition with American, Delta, and Continental. And with their low fares it might be more appealing to customers, than jacked up fares on American and Delta.
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34118 posts, RR: 70
Reply 14, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2351 times:
Jcxp15, two of USAirway's TPA-PNS flights originate in Miami. I still find it just ridiculous that there is no non-stop service on the route. Miami in general lacks Florida flights (even though MIA-MCO and MIA-TPA are the #1 and #2 regional routes in the US), one large reason is American Eagle's reluctance to serve the intra-Florida market well (they serve MIA-TPA and MIA-MCO well; in fact AA has mainline MIA-TPA/MCO service; but others are lacking). MIA has no jet service/first class service to JAX, which is disgraceful, and pretty sad that the only jet service between Miami and Jacksonville is on Southwest.
Chepos, I am almost positive airTran did MIA-MCO until last spring.
747firstclass From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2322 times:
I heard a very interesting story from a very very well placed source in BMI, where Air Tran has been for a few years. BMI recently lost service to Denver. There is also been considerable talk there of perhaps a BMI-BWI flight. That part of Illinois can use some direct service to the east, mainly the DC/BWI area. There has also been some talk of doing a BWI-BMI-Denver flight, for the reasons that were outlined above. Also it would be able to quickly get and in out of BMI, making it more competitive to other nonstop BWI-Denver flights.
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2316 times:
I don't think Boeing is exactly ready to move forward with a 717-300. So, if AirTran is ready to expand west, what aircraft do you think they should use? Although, I think they should concentrate on markets that have been severely curtailed by their larger piers, I think they should remain somewhat conservative for the time being, given the depressed state of affairs in the air travel industry right now.
LoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4028 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
Y'all tell me what you think about this. How about AUS?
For one thing, we have two vacant gates, Gate 25 and the old TWA gate, Gate 3. Plus, Vanguard is currently at Gate 24 and if they were to move down to Gate 3 it would actually be a LOT closer to their ticket counter. Then that would leave Gates 24 and 25 vacant.
Delta has a monopoly on the AUS-ATL flights, so let AirTran do a few of those. Also, NO airline flies AUS-MSY or AUS-FLL/MIA nonstop, so if AirTran were to do those they'd have a monopoly. Or maybe they could even do AUS-MSY-FLL. Used to be, nobody flew AUS-MCI nonstop, then Vanguard came to AUS. I thought I had read earlier (in this forum) that their loads weren't too good, yet I see where they added a third AUS-MCI last month. Maybe AirTran could have the same success with MSY and FLL.
Also, if they wanted to get sneaky, they could also do one nonstop each AUS-MCO and AUS-TPA. Right now, Southwest has the only nonstops to MCO and TPA and they just have 1 per day. From AUS, they have a 5:55 p.m. departure to TPA and a 8:30 p.m. departure to MCO. If AirTran were to serve those city-pairs, they'd probably want to have a morning or midday departure to TPA & MCO to complement Southwest's schedule, much like their new Florida service out of BWI will do.
Coming back to AUS, Southwest's nonstops depart TPA at 7:20 a.m. and MCO at 3:20 p.m., so AirTran could do an afternoon/evening flight from TPA and and maybe a mid-morning flight from MCO.
I would actually like to see AirTran and Southwest pair up in more cities. Southwest serving some destinations, and AirTran serving other cities where Southwest doesn't fly. I think if AirTran and Southwest don't try to compete with each other too much, they can both do real damage to the other big guys' yields. All it takes is 1 low-fare carrier in a city-pair to cause the big guys to have to match prices.
And for all the above reasons, I think those same cities would work for SAT should AirTran decide to go there. Just my 2 cents.
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2254 times:
>>I am almost positive airTran did MIA-MCO until last spring.<<
Nope, they haven't. I looked in all my timetables from 1999-2001, and they never flew that route.
>>Why would AirTran move to ICT in the future, when it has been proven COS, and DEN have been more profitable markets. And please don't tell me "It's underserved"!<<
ICT slowly expands their presence in the West, plus there will be a travel bank sitting there waiting for them when they come in. A travel bank makes it a low-risk venture for them, whereas DEN/COS is farther west and much higher risk without a travel bank.
BonanzaFunjet From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
Why would AirTran move to ICT in the future, when it has been proven COS, and DEN have been more profitable markets. And please don't tell me "It's underserved"!
ICT seems to think that they are "underserved". The city is trying to get three, count them three, lowfare airlines to start service there. Frontier, ATA, and Airtran have all been approached to serve ICT with each getting a $5m travel bank. The money is slow to come in, but Airtran is said to have an estimated 40% of all funds collected so far.