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Top 5 Longest B747-400 Route  
User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

Hi everyone,

I apologise if this has been started before, but I couldn't find it after searching for a while. I would like to know what are the top 5 longest B747-400 (only), operated before and currently routes in the world. Thank you

alvin


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User currently offlineSAA201 From South Africa, joined May 2001, 512 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

Don't know the exact numbers, but SAA's flights from the USA to South Africa with B747-400's ie. JFK-JNB, ATL-CPT and ATL-JNB are right up there within the top 5 or 6.

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5297 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

I would say these would be right up there.

MEL-LAX
ORD-HKG
SYD-LAX
AKL-EZE
TPE-LAX

plus the ones SAA201 said. I have no idea about distances though.


User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2589 times:

LON-SYD
SYD-NYC

Not non stop of course


User currently offlineGr325 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 714 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

AMS - TYO (KL)
non stop



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User currently offlineThe Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

AMS-TYO is nowhere near as far as MEL-LAX and JNB-ATL....surely even SIN-LHR is longer than AMS-TYO.




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User currently offlineMegatop From Denmark, joined May 1999, 347 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2547 times:

You can always check routes with this link:

http://gc.kls2.com/

TRY IT !!

Megatop


User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2415 times:

Thanks a lot!


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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24911 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

LHR-SYD


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User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

LHR sydney has a stop. it really doesnt matter how long a route of a 747-400 is if it stops... what matters is non stop! Wasnt United Airlines flight from JFK-HKG the worlds longest nonstop flight before it was suspended?

User currently offlineRyu2 From Taiwan, joined Aug 2002, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2363 times:

If you want to get technical, the world's longest 747-400 route was the old UA 1/2 RTW route: LAX-IAD-LHR-DEL-HKG-LAX.

User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2362 times:
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Wasn't part of UA1/2 operated by 777s?

David


User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

I would say:

LAX-LHR
NRT-JFK
HKG-JFK (UA only operated for a couple months)


User currently offlineNWA ARJ From United States of America, joined May 2001, 547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2328 times:

I would have to say:

JFK-NRT
AMS-NRT
DTW-HKG
DTW-TPE



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User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32613 posts, RR: 72
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2316 times:

CPT-FLL is definitley a top five.


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User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2313 times:

My money's on the Springbok.

I would bet the that SAA's North America services account for 4 of the top 5 longest 744 routes.

In order of decreasing mileage (sorry, don't have the point-to-point mileage handy) -

ATL-JNB
JFK-JNB
ATL-CPT
CPT-FLL

These sectors are all over 8000 statute miles, with the exception of CPT-FLL, which is darn close.

I don't think any transpac 744 services are longer than these SAA routes now that UA's JFK-HKG is gone.

This subject has come up before regarding the longest scheduled commerical air routes. ATL-JNB is still the longest sked route operated based on point-to-point mileage. Having travelled SAA ATL-CPT-FLL-ATL I can definitely attest, these flights seem to last forever.



User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

I'm confused, I guess. Are we talking non-stop flights, or are we talking about flights with stops? I'm pretty sure the SAA 744 doesn't do ATL-JNB non-stop. At 8,431 miles, it is well outside the range of a 744. I thought the SAA planes fueled up in the Azores or somewhere in the Atlantic? Maybe not, however.

FLL-CPT is 7,647 miles. However, it is bested by LAX-MEL (Qantas flight 93, and ex-United) at 7,930 miles. JFK-HKG was 8,071 miles before it was axed. If ATL-CPT is a non-stop, it is the longest (8,105 miles). If not, the longest flight I believe is still the LAX-MEL route.

Others mentioned in this thread:
LAX-SYD - 7,478 miles
SFO-SYD - 7,405 miles
AKL-EZE - 6,459 miles
LAX-AKL - 6,517 miles
LAX-TPE - 6,804 miles
AMS-NRT - 5,820 miles
SIN-LHR - 6,764 miles


User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

I think SAA did fly ATL-JNB non-stop Eastbound only for a while, and It was a 744?!?


You mad Bro???
User currently offlineVictor From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2204 times:

Then how about HKG-LAX ?

User currently offlineXXXX10 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 777 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

I think the Saa 744 operated non-stop eastbound
- JNB is 5,000 above sea level so the westbound flights stop in Sal Island

The longest must be JFL- HKG if that was nonstop

Longest stopping flight is NZ1 LHR-AKL


User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Most of SAA's eastbound transatlantic services operate NONSTOP. That's ATL-JNB, ATL-CPT, JFK-JNB. Recently SAA introduced JFK-Lagos-JNB, but they still operate JFK-JNB nonstop a few times weekly.
Westbound services are via FLL or Sal Island.

Using Travelin man's figures, it appears the 5 longest sked NONSTOP 744 routes are...

1. ATL-JNB SAA 8,431 statute miles
2. JFK-JNB SAA 8,000+ (don't have the exact #)
3. ATL-CPT SAA 8,105
4. LAX-MEL QF 7,930
5. CPT-FLL SAA 7,647

Just look at an atlas and behold all the blue between ATL/JFK and South Africa...


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

I was at CPT airport earlier this month, and there was an SAA flight leaving at 5.20pm for Jo'burg, Ilha do Sal & Atlanta.

Guess that confirms the stops, westbound.

Wouldn't mind the length if I was flying on SAA's new fully-flat beds in First & Business Class! Big grin

Regards


User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

forget looking at an atlas... that has to much distortion. to fully appreciate those flights check out a globe for a realistic representation of just how long those flights are!

User currently offlineFrostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

A reasonable point KaiTakFan, but consider that these flights pass through low latitudes only...the level of distortion present on a standard Mercator projection map through low latitudes is really small. Pick the shortest straight line distance between ATL & JNB on a standard wall map and a globe, and I bet you'd find the two paths pretty similar.

Ok, so I'm splitting hairs...but I think it's an interesting topic.

Cheers


User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2068 times:

Interesting.. keep them coming.


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25 JetTrader : Excuse my ignorance here but... Does anyone fly SFO-SIN or vice versa with a 744 as this is 8446 miles, mostly over water again...beating ATL-JNB by
26 Post contains images JetTrader : Or how about LAX-SIN / SIN-LAX at 8770 miles
27 Frostbite : Nope, as yet no nonstop service from North America to SIN. No airliner today has legs long enough for such a route, at least when carrying an economic
28 Ryu2 : SQ will start SIN-SFO and SIN-LAX in 2003 or 2004 when they get their A340-500 aircraf.
29 Post contains links Travelin man : JFK-JNB -- 7,960 miles (interesting that ATL-JNB is 500 more miles than JFK-JNB) LAX-HKG -- 7,259 miles I still don't see how a 744 could do ATL-JNB (
30 Ryu2 : The ATL-JNB is nonstop east bound only, and is helped by the tail winds, so it could probably fly a bit further because of the winds.
31 Chiawei : SQ has 2 flights daily into SFO. One is via Seoul (ICN). The other is via HKG(CLK). LAX i believe is served via TPE.
32 Travelin man : LAX is served by SQ through both TPE and NRT.
33 Post contains images Matt777 : From Great Circle Mapper Top 8 that I think! ATL -JNB 8431 mi ATL -CPT 8105 mi JFK -JNB 7960 mi MEL -LAX 7930 mi ORD -HKG 7793 mi SYD -LAX 7478 mi TPE
34 Mr.BA : Thanks all for the replies! alvin
35 Victor : But is it LAX-HKG route longer LAX-TPE ?
36 Gerardo : According to Great Circle Mapper: ATL-CPT: 7043 nm HKG-JFK: 7014 nm JFK-JNB: 6917 nm MEL-LAX: 6891 nm DTW-HKG: 6827 nm HKG-YYZ: 6787 nm ORD-HKG: 6772
37 Post contains links Skippy777 : United Claims World's Longest Non-Stop Scheduled Passenger Flight United Airlines planned to launch yesterday what it says is the world's longest non-
38 Post contains links Skippy777 : I found it !!!! The longest 747-400 flight was in 1989. Registration VH OJB 747-438 s/nr 24373 ( than known as Kangaroo Dream ) Now the Wunala Dreamin
39 El Al 001 : This one is ofcourse no the longest, but it is long indeed... LAX-TLV by LY 744, 12,200 km. Michael
40 Post contains images ZK-NBT : Small correction the QF744 was VH-OJA City of Canberra done on August 17 1989, I'm not sure if it left LHR on that date or if it arrived in Sydney.
41 Mr.BA : It arrived in Sydney but I think with just a bit of fuel left.. maybe not even enough for a possible go around?
42 Rushed : Here are some distances from what people have mentioned...havent read all the posts, couldnt be bothered. (NB: 1km = 0.621371miles) JNB-ATL 13568 km A
43 Cedarjet : Actually I think that QF 744 arrived over Sydney with at least an hour's worth of fuel PLUS RESERVES. There is no way it arrived without enough fuel f
44 Mr.BA : Thanks Cedarjet for clearing this up. You have a good strong point. Wonder how much fuel did the B747 has left in it's tanks upon arrival. Couldn't be
45 Jupiter2 : In regards to the LHR/SYD non stop delivery flight by VH-OJA the weather in Sydney that day was crap and QF were worried that they would have had to d
46 Baec777 : Korean Air Boeing 744 SEOUL-DALLAS/FORT WORTH-SEOUL baec777
47 Timz : ...is 11011 km, so nothing special. SYD-JNB is 11044 km.
48 Jupiter2 : Timz, Thanks for that, maybe not the longest flight but still pretty long. According to the QF website it takes 13.50 westbound and only 11.45 eastbou
49 Danialanwar : Sydney-Johannesburg is 5982nm. Another long one (if still operated) is (was) Philippine Airlines Manila-Los Angeles at 6356nm - not top 5 but anyway
50 Timz : Based on SYD being at 33.946111 S, 151.177222 E and JNB at 26.139167 S, 28.246000 E the distance along the geodesic on the GRS80/WGS84 spheroid is 596
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