BWIA330 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 919 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1728 times:
Hey all you BWIA fans.
Its great news to my hears and for many of you all that it is certain that BWIA will be getting two fatastic Airbus A340-300 aircraft from the ILFC. Even though Slawko has mentioned this earlier, I would like to confirm its absolutely true because there has been soo much speculation over the past years.
I cant wait to see these birds in BWIA's new livery.
Here is the news article.
Ceilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1527 times:
From Canadian Aviation News:
Air Canada has taken one of the 747-475s (FIN381 C-GMWW) out of storage at Vancouver and flown it to Singapore for a heavy maintenance check prior to its re-entering service with the airline. All seven 747-400s will be in use this summer due to the fact that three of the A340-300s are being returned to the lessor. One of them has already been taken out of the fleet to be prepared for a lease to Air Jamaica (FIN908 C-GDVV) and two more A340s are being returned to ILFC for onward lease to B.W.I.A. These will be the early model A340-313s (C-FTNQ/C-FTNP FIN981/982). This will leave nine A340s flying this summer on long-haul routes, seven 747-400s, and eight A330-300s. The A340-300 (FIN908 C-GDVV) was flown to Montreal on 16th of January with just the name and logo sanded out on the fuselage, but still in basic Air Canada colours. It will undergo a 30-day maintenance check there before being handed back to ILFC/Air Jamaica.
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1461 times:
That will finally put matters to rest. As for why an Airbus rather than a Boeing, it was mentioned some time ago by someone else that the A340-300 has some engine commonality with the 737-800 (ie CFM 56 plants) thus reducing the overall number of types which BW will have to work on in the future. So BW and JM will have A340s - very interesting indeed. The only shared type at present is the MD83 and JM has planned to dispense with its 2 in favour of more A320s.
So AC is cutting back its A340-300 fleet and consolidating on the 747-400s and the remaining wide-body Airbuses. It makes some sense seeing that the newer, larger 'Buses will come on stream in the next few years.
As far as BW's numbers go, they need 2 longhaul planes given the long runs that they are called upon on a daily basis.
Voodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2074 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1413 times:
($b = Trinidad $)
BWIA hunts for $b planes
By Juhel Browne (Trinidad Guardian)
At a time of staff cutbacks, national carrier BWIA West Indies Airways
taken steps to lease two new planes for a possible maximum price of $1
billion (US$180 million). This is not a done deal, however, says the
airline which has denied a report by the International Lease Finance
Corporation (ILFC) that it has already acquired the planes. On January
ILFC announced on its web site that BWIA had dry-leased two Airbus
A340-300s-MSN 88 and 93- for five years. ILFC, which leases aircraft to
airlines around the world, also stated the planes are scheduled for
delivery to BWIA in June and November. But Clint Williams, BWIA's
of corporate communications, last Thursday dismissed the ILFC report.
my knowledge a final decision has not been made and approved by the
Williams said. BWIA chief executive officer Conrad Aleong has written a
strong note to the ILFC condemning its announcement, he disclosed.
Williams did confirm BWIA has been actively pursuing the acquisition of
aircraft to replace two of its three ageing Lockheed L-1011 TriStars. A
committee of BWIA executives is leading the search for the planes. In
February edition of BWIA's in-flight magazine Caribbean Beat, Aleong
the airline expects to pay between US$144 million (TT$904 million) to
US$180 million (TT$1.1 billion) for the two planes. "There's no showroom
where you can pick out a new US$90 million (TT$565 million) aircraft or
slightly used one for US$72 million (TT$452 million) - that's roughly
we expect to pay for each of the two new, almost new, aircraft we will
deploying on the London route," Aleong wrote in his column.
Despite the conflicting reports about the acquisition, an industry
said BWIA is now in advanced negotiations with ILFC. The source said
wants to acquire two five-year-old Airbus Industrie A340-313s, different
models to the ones the ILFC said the airline had obtained. The A340-313
aircraft, now registered as C-FTNP and C-FTNQ, were formerly flown by
Canada. Air Canada will return three of the 12 A340s it leased back to
ILFC. One of these, the source said, is now being prepared for lease to
Air Jamaica while the other two are expected to go to BWIA. The source
BWIA should receive the aircraft by September or October and not June
November as the ILFC stated.
The new aircraft are meant to reduce the fuel and maintenance costs
incurred by the L-1011s. BWIA insists the purchases, if completed during
the restructuring exercise, will not contradict its cost cutting
BWIA's plan is not only to cut costs but also to find methods and
that will improve its efficiency and revenue earning ability. "A
restructuring exercise is not just a witch hunt to find people to fire,"
Williams said. "It would be premature to answer questions when we have
made a final decision." But premature is how Curtis John, acting
of the Aviation Communication & Allied Workers Union (ACAWU) described
BWIA's plan to buy any aircraft at this time. "If you are restructuring
people going to lose their jobs, now is not the right time to purchase
these aircraft," John said.
He did not disagree with the need for BWIA to replace the L-1011s.
John said the purchase of any aircraft, when BWIA says it has to reduce
staff, raises suspicions about the airline's true financial state. BWIA
has been looking for two new planes long before September 11, Williams
said. The airline had stated that its revenues and passengers loads have
decreased since the terrorist attacks in the United States. BWIA too
to return two MD-83s, to their leasing company, as it reduces flights as
well. The MD-83s normally ply BWIA's regional routes. John said the
airline's executives stated that US$3 million (TT$19 million) of BWIA's
revenue was already dedicated for the refurbishing of the L-1011s. "If
are doing a restructuring programme, you refurbish the L-1011s and when
are finished with your restructuring then purchase new aircraft," he
If BWIA has millions to purchase the aircraft, train and equip the
departments for their operation, John believed the airline can then
to keep its staff. "The company doesn't have valid reasons for sending
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1366 times:
I think that BWIA is having trouble getting an ETOPS certificate taht would make twin ops from trinidad to europe efficient and cost effective, and so the quad would eliminate the need for etops, and costs around the same price as a new 330 to lease.
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
AWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1325 times:
Seems the folks down there at BWIA need to get their s*** together and make up their minds about what the heck they're gonna do..... and do it right.
Why condemn ILFC for stating they're getting planes? It's as though they don't wanna look bad for laying-off staff while aquiring planes.
Oh, BWIA..... sigh