Deltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1620 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6973 times:
I only know 2. The one that resembles a doorbell chime is the crew call. When the flight attendants call each other or the pilots that is the chime you are hearing. The single chime means someone is calling for a f/a. There are a couple of more chimes that sound just like this one, but I don't know what they mean. On certain a/c, if you look at a certain part in the galley you can see different color lights that light up for different chimes. Anyone know if this is the captain's way of communicating to the rest of the crew?
SJCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 579 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6939 times:
Single chime is a passenger calling. Double chime is usually made by the captain during take off and landing once the bird reaches 10,000 ft.- indicates to the f/a to tell pax they can use/discontinue use of electronics. When a f/a calls another one, they are usually supposed to do the double chime twice.
Corsairf/a From France, joined Oct 2000, 373 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6895 times:
About different lights, on Corsair B747/737 the blue one is pax call, the orange one a call from the lav (pax call/fire alarm) and the pink one call from a crew member(fa or pilots) and if it flashes it is an emegency call.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3656 posts, RR: 29 Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6773 times:
Every aircraft and airline have different procedures, therefore there is no set plan for chimes.
I can tell you on the Avro, in Mesaba operation, a double chime are the FA's communicating. A singe chime is a passenger calling a FA. At 500 feet agl or when it is smooth, whichever comes first the pilot not flying turns off the seat belt sign and immediately turns it back on (quickly) to indicate to the FA's that it is ok to get out of their jumseats to start the service. The PNF does the same thing, at 10,000 feet to indicate the sterile cockpit procedures are over as well as the electronic device announcement must be made. Upon landing when the gear is selected down, the PNF also performs the chime with the seatbelt to indicate being close to landing. When we chime the FAs to talk to them using the cabin call button, it is a double chime to them and the pick up the interphone and speak. When they call us for any reason from the back it is a single chime, but a specific light illuminates, wether it is a cabin call, emergency or ground call. So, it is very aircraft specific as you call tell as well as airline procedure specific.
Rootsgirl From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 530 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6767 times:
Different chimes, according to the carrier. At my airline pax call usually always single chime, high/low f/a station to f/a station. Hi/hi/lo f/a to purser and Capt. to purser. We always used 4 chimes as a sign for cabin crew to be seated and strapped for take off and landing.
Though, recently, we ammended it because at another carrier 4 chimes meant "emergrency". We hired a lot of f/a's from this other carrier and to avoid confusion we changed it.
IAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6769 times:
At Continental/Express, the chimes are as follows. The doorbell is front F/A to back F/A, or from Cockpit. The single chime/ding (depending on aircraft) indicates either a sign change (seatbelt or smoking sign of or on) or a passanger call button. At 10,000 the captain will normally give two chimes/dings by releasing the no smoking sign then turning it back on again, thus the two dings. This will be associated with a blue steril cockpit light over the cockpit door. The light is on below 10,000 and off above 10,000 roughly. Below 10,000 the flight attendants should not call the cockpit unless there is an emergency. If they do call, the pilots might take a bit longer to answer the call as they are prone to be more busy below 10,000.
Returning through 10,000 feet on landing, the cockpit crew will turn on the steril (blue) light but not necessarily issue a chime with it. 10 minutes from touchdown the cockpit crew will give the flight attendants 2 dings (again the no smoking sign off, then on) and the flight attendants will start with their "could you please help in preparing the cabin for landing" announcements.
On a side not, it upsets me when the flight attendants get the two bells and then announce to the passangers that "we've been cleared to land". Amazingingly stupid. Ten minutes can easily be 40 miles from the airport and you are normally cleared to land about 5 miles from the end of the runway. I wish they would quit that crap as it makes the pilots look stupid if there is an unexpected hold/go around or something of that nature. "But I thought we were cleared to land a few minutes ago, why are we climbing?"
On the ERJ, passing 10,000 feet going up and down, we have a special button that gives a doorbell sound. It gives no light on the pa system so the F/A knows to look for the steril light and make an announcement. Some pilots use that button twice for the two bells 10 minutes from landing. Most use the no-smoking sign as I do. It makes 2 real bell sounds. 4 bells at COEX is prepare for inpact and 2 ding-dongs can confuse someone as being 4 bells. I like to keep is simple.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3656 posts, RR: 29 Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6761 times:
One more thing, don't let the FA's fool you when they announce that we have been cleared to land. For example on NW, when the double chime comes, the FA's announce "ladies and gentlemen we have just been cleared to land, please make sure that your seat belts are facend, tray table are returned to their upright and locked position and foot rests are stowed. The FA's will be making their last cabin check prior to landing. We will be on the ground shortly."
I find it funny, that people have no idea that we really weren't just cleared to land. In most cases we aren't cleared to land until about 5 miles out on tower frequency. Approach can't clear you to land and we communicate with them until the marker, which is about 5-6 miles out.
The chime is just to get everyone to sit down (which they already should be doing, because the seatbelt sign has been on the entire decent, but people never pay attention) and prepare for landing, as it is going to happen very soon.
LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6755 times:
The full chime is the "door bell" type HI-LO. That is a cockpit crew call. A double HI-LO is FA to FA. In both cases the red light comes on on the ACP - area call panel. The pax call is the HI note only and lights the blue light on the ACP. A change in the seatbelt sign produces a LO note. Sterile cockpit comes at top of descent and top of climb. This is usually a flickering of the seat belt sign twice and produces a double LO note. I hope this helps.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3656 posts, RR: 29 Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6640 times:
In some cases you really could have been cleared for landing, but chances are very likely it was just the FA's telling everyone to get ready. I guess there aren't very many professional ways to say it, so they just say that. I think most airlines to the same thing... it isn't isolated to NW. Because there is no way other than the crew upfront making a noise, with a chime etc... that the FA's know the minute we receive a landing clearance.
Deltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1620 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6583 times:
IAHERJ: I totally know what you are talking about with the clear the land part. I always like to sit behind the wings and it is obvious that when you are in a descent, but when the flaps haven't been deployed yet, I can recognize landmarks that put us a good 40-60 miles out you can't even see cars yet and you hear the f/as making the announcement "we've been cleard to land" it is too funny. On many of occasions after we've supposedly been cleared to land I've felt us climbing, circling, and overall just hitting more delays. I know what is happening up front, but it does raise a question for those who don't fly as often: they have to wonder what is going on if we have supposedly been cleared to land.
They should get a new announcement and be told not to say that.
FlightSimFreak From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 720 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6554 times:
Usairdc9... You'v posted a whole 25 posts? Try 8 thread starters, 101 replies for a total of 109 posts. I've only posted um... 19 thread starters, and 244 others for a total of 263. I'm not on anyone's respected user list, and I've posted about 5/2's as many times as you... stop whining. Usually, you have to do something respectable to become a respected user... whitty reply, interesting topic... something. Oh... and you've been a member for 14 days. I've been a member for 1 year and 91 days... a lot mor than 5/2's as long as you... Get a life.
Jetbluerules From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6554 times:
Azjubilee -- In some cases you really could have been cleared for landing, but chances are very likely it was just the FA's telling everyone to get ready. I guess there aren't very many professional ways to say it, so they just say that. I think most airlines to the same thing... it isn't isolated to NW. Because there is no way other than the crew upfront making a noise, with a chime etc... that the FA's know the minute we receive a landing clearance.
Not all airlines have F/A's say cleared for landing....On every US Airways, American & jetBlue flight that I have taken, a whole lot, the F/A's say something along the lines of "We are beginning our final descent into..." It's much more professional and accurate. More airlines should catch on in my opinion.
FlightSimFreak -- Usairdc9... You'v posted a whole 25 posts? Try 8 thread starters, 101 replies for a total of 109 posts. I've only posted um... 19 thread starters, and 244 others for a total of 263. I'm not on anyone's respected user list, and I've posted about 5/2's as many times as you... stop whining. Usually, you have to do something respectable to become a respected user... whitty reply, interesting topic... something. Oh... and you've been a member for 14 days. I've been a member for 1 year and 91 days... a lot mor than 5/2's as long as you... Get a life.
I think that you are the one that needs to get a life. That wasn't the main point of this post, and there was no need whatsoever for you to harrass him. As you said, there is a reason that people are not respected. Maybe you should remember that if you ever want to be.
Usairdc9 -- You are a USAir fan, so you can't be all bad, start more threads like this one, and you will be respected by many. Don't let jerks like FlightSimFreak irritate you too bad, just ignore him and many of the members like him.
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3656 posts, RR: 29 Reply 21, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6535 times:
Since when did this place become a popularity contest? Who the heck cares if you have respected user votes or whatever the heck that is? Does it get you ahead in life? will it get you a job? does it make you happy in life to know you are a respected user? THis is just a board for airline etc... discussion. Even that I wonder about sometimes with the rediculous stuff that floats around here. Dude... relax, get a life and contribute something worthwhile.