Wadha From United Arab Emirates, joined Mar 2000, 185 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1253 times:
I was wondering, is Gulfair's main Hub is at Bahrain or Abudhabi? true that i see them alot in Dubai as a gate agent, but most of them are the A320's, and some times the 767-300, but never seen the A330's or the A340's here in Dubai.
I saw in this picture that this plane is heading back to Abudhabi, and this was the reason that i got confused, because i remember that Bahrain are the main hub for gulf air, not Abudhabi.. Am i wrong? correct me please
OD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1238 times:
Gulf Air's main hub is at BAH, not AUH. However, they are supposed to serve the four cities: BAH, AUH, MCT, and DOH. That's why they operate lots of flights from there.
I donno why are you confusing DXB with AUH: Dubai is not a hub for GF, so why should you see the A330's or A340's right there? GF uses the A320 and 763 to feed the hub with pax. Besides, Emirates is trying to penetrate into Abu Dhabi, so the only way left for GF is Bahrain: After Qatar Airways took DOH, and Oman Air is trying to control MCT.
I think GF should follow Swissair when they chose Zurich as a hub, and stopped major flights in GVA. GF should concentrate on one hub only to survive, at least, competition from EK!
Fly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1231 times:
i remember when Gulf air had the L-1011's they used to operate them from Dubai and Sharjah international on a Daily basis, in addition, i am from Sharjah, and Sharjah was a hub for gulf air once. I remember taking the flight on an L-1011 in 1989 from Sharjah to London.
Also, i fly to Doha alot, and before then there was always a flight on an L-1011 daily to Doha and Bahrain either from Dubai or from Sharjah international.
but i guess, you are right, Gulf air should concentrate on one hub.
MightyFalcon From Oman, joined Jun 2001, 384 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1225 times:
You're right, Bahrain is indeed the main hub for GF. That's where GF's headquarters are located. On another hand, Abu Dhabi is also a very important second hub for the airline as many of its flights are arriving there or departing from there. Furthermore, Abu Dhabi is the maintenance centre for GF.
As you might know, Gulf Air is a multi-national carrier; it belongs to UAE (except Dubai now) for 25%, Oman (25%), Bahrain (25%) and Qatar (25%).
In order to share the benefits of having parts of of this airline, Bahrain inherited the headquarters, UAE got the maintenance centre, Oman the aircraft registrations (all GF's airliners wear an omani reg #) and Qatar got the crew training centre (not sure 100% of the last one).
Wadha From United Arab Emirates, joined Mar 2000, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1221 times:
oh thanks mighty falcon , offcourse it helped..
fly_emirates, are you going to start arguing? on the last trip to london you made a big scene before we closed the door! dont start it here again on this website
Marco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1219 times:
Gulf Air's four hubs are Doha, Abu Dhabi, Manama and Muscat. However GF operates more flights out of AUH/BAH because there's more demand for flights from these two cities (greater population, more business, etc)
Qatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1213 times:
You're right MightyFalcon. Muscat was going to be the cargo centre for GF with the 757PF. They planned to get more 757PF and operate them out of Muscat. Ofcourse they only operated one(?) 757PF and mainly out of Bahrain. Qatar has the crew training centre and presently it is shared by Gulf Air and Qatar Airways.
Back in the early 90's the 4 hub system was highly succesful. After the entrance of Qatar Airways and Oman Air GF suffered tremendously. Mostly in DOH hub because the QR routes directly competed with GF. In MCT GF still has a small presence because Oman doesn't operate long haul flights. I still think that GF can operate profitably out of 2 hubs. AUH and BAH, AUH doesn't have resident airline other than GF and GF has complete control over BAH.
GF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1162 times:
Hi, Qatar has no wish to sell its stake in Gulf Air despite the ambitious expansion plans of its own national airline. It was rumoured the Qatari government would decide to sell its 25 per cent stake in Gulf Air to concentrate on its own carrier.
Qatar Airways has added a number of new destinations to its itinerary and placed orders for more than a dozen new aircraft. The three latest destinations to be served by Qatar Airways are the Maldives, Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta.
Doha International Airport has also just benefited from an expansion programme, which has seen the airport grow to more than three times its previous size.
The Qatari government is, however, keen to maintain its investments in Gulf Air, which is also part-owned by Bahrain, Oman and Abu Dhabi.
If you require further info, regarding Gulf Air's operations in its four owner states, then I can recommend to you that you, click on this link. Its from the GF website.
Qatar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1155 times:
QR started out in 1994 by some private investors includind SHK. Hamad bin Ali Al-Thani who now owns Gulf Air Falcon. Even though the airline had good loads the yeilds were terrible. For example a ticket usually around $900 was sold for $600 and you get a free ticket with it. Gulf Air was unaffected because QR stank in service. Under islamic law a muslim can't invest in any company that serves alchohol. The other shareholders of Qatar Airways mainly Shk Hamad Bin Jassim who is also the foreign minister wanted to introduce alchohol on the flights but Hamad bin Ali Al-Thani refused as he was very religious. He basically took out his share and left to Sharjah to start his current airline. With Hamad bin Ali's shares out QR was in crisis because they were short in cash and the company has a bad image which made difficult to attract new investors or customers. An accoutant from the Qatar CAA, Mr Al-Baker who has an Indian mother and a Qatari father (similar to the FAA of the US) was asked to head the improved QR. Qatar Airways disposed of the boeings and leased an A320 and an A300 and relaunched with improved service and a new brand image. The new QR was very sucessfull but still the Qatar Government didn't invest in the airline. Immediatley after that GF wanted to fight Qatar Airways because QR was taken much of GF's traffic away and tried to persuade the Qatar Government to protect GF. Basically after that GF services were cut dramatically out of Doha and it isn't that much of hub anymore and Qatar Airways took GF's place. With the losses in GF, the Qatar government bought a small stake in QR which was approx 15% and later increased the stake to 50% this present day because of QR's profitability from the relaunch. Qatar wants to withdraw from GF because GF has basically little to do with Qatar, doesn't do much to promote it like Qatar Airways and has suffered from financial troubles. Due to political reasons and solidarity with the other gulf members Qatar will not withdraw it's stake at least for the time bieng.