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The New Airline: Swiss Airlines  
User currently offlineNewSwissair From Switzerland, joined Nov 2001, 282 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2383 times:

Hi,
A newspaper the "Basler Zeitung" published the new name for the former Swissair/Crossair today. Swiss Airlines! It hasn`t confirmed by the managment, I`m sure it will be the new name. Also the MD-11 should be replaced by about 10 LH A 340-300 this year and LH crews should fly them until the swiss crews are ready for the new aircraft. Problably it will be a trade, 13 MD-11 to LH Cargo, and 10 A 340-300 for Swiss Airlines. I know that the MD-11 are PW powered and LH`s are GE, don`t know more about it.

Regards

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User currently offlineAzjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3908 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

Here we go again... taking a media press relase for gospel. It was made very clear by the Crossair people that they could "not confirm nor deny" that the new name was Swissairlines. Without confirmation, you really don't know. So don't start off on a tangent when we really don't know the truth.


AZJ


User currently offlineSas a340 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2001, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

How old are those a343?

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

looks reasonable and Swiss Airlines is nearly as good as Swiss Airways....


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User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2900 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Maybe they call it Swiss Airlines, maybe not. But that LH deal sounds really unrealistic to me. LH Cargo currently faces overcapacities, plus the GE/PW problem you mentioned. Why should SR pay LH for operating an A340 fleet, they have got more than enough own crews, and btw isn't there a commonality (spelling?) between those A340s and SR's existing A330 fleet?

The whole article doesn't sound very serious. Sorry, but I'm waiting for a reliable source to confirm that message, otherwise I call it nonsense.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

This romour is around for 2 weeks or so now.

LH could replace the A343s with A346...
LH was trying to get more MD11s for some time, actually LH is still pissed that Boeing stopped producing it.
The new SR will need their A330 pilots for their A330s *g*. SR is doing the so called 26/26 project - 26 A32S short-haul, 13 A330 & 13 MD-11.
SR was very unsatisfied with their MD11s, because they "burn" money like hell ... MD11 are only profitable on cargo routes. The A340-300s would be a much better plane for the new SR. And LH still can get cheap A340-600s. You remember, Airbus said they are very confident that they can sell the unassigned A346s to Lufthansa.

I think the article of the Basler Zeitung is right...


User currently offlineSQ325 From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2071 times:

Swiss Airlines!
Surprise Surprise
Anyhow, I wish them success!


User currently offlineRey777 From France, joined Apr 2001, 170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2038 times:

Ooooooh well, nothing more than journalistic rumor and " I wanna be the first one to know the new name" gospel !

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

I did say a month or so ago that they will be called Swiss.

As for the A340-300's that would be fantastic. It also makes great sence. Maybe LH will take some A346's ahead of the planned delivery dates to replace the A343's going to Swiss ?


User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

They will look like Delta: Swiss Air Lines. I donno what difference is there between Airlines and Air Lines!! Anyways, I won't trade the name Swissair for any other name: not even mine! I hope they name it Swissair again.



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User currently offlineElal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

OD-BWH,

the new swiss airline will not keep swissair. the main reason is that if they decide to keep it, companies and airlines that swissair owes money to will file many lawsuits against them for money they are owed.


User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1862 times:

Of course they will not re-name it Swissair. I've heared that it might have two names: one for trading (for pax i.e.), the other for legal affairs. I would beleive they will call it New Swissair, or Swissair 2, bla bla...


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User currently offlineLGB Photos From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1861 times:

I have already seen a pic of an MD-80 in the new scheme without titles. A friend of mine in ZRH shot it during taxi last week after being pulled out of the hangar.

Stephen


User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Would you plz post this photo? Do you think it's for the new Swissair or Crossair?


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User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1841 times:

LGB Photos:

The aircraft you saw flies for Odette AIrways. Which has no connection no SR.

Tom


User currently offline2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

OD-BWH- how is it like Delta? I guess you didnt hear/notice.. the last scheme changed also was a name change.. they arent officialy Delta Airlines anymore.. they are just Delta... notice how anything corosponding with the airline only has Delta on it now? no more Airlines is in the name.

User currently offlineOD-BWH From Kuwait, joined Jan 2002, 399 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

I was arguing about the difference in spelling: Airlines or Air Lines. Delta USED to call itself Delta Air Lines instead of Delta Airlines.

Excuse me for the misunderstanding. However, the official name of Delta is still Delta Air Lines I guess.



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User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Next thursday, the new name, logo and summer timetable will be presented to the public.

As for the future alliance: a decision is apparently expected by March 2002.

Gerardo



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8005 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Hopefully, we'll see Swiss Airlines A340-300's flying to and from SFO by late this summer.

The lower fuel burn of the A343 will more than compensate for the slightly slower cruise speed of the plane.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3402 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

when is lufthansa supposed to start flying the 346? will lufthansa fly it into phl? is this new swiss airline going to fly into phl?

User currently offlineVivaGunners From Italy, joined Oct 2000, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1741 times:

And why LH should give away 10 passenger planes for 10, or more, cargo planes?
Doesn't LH need those A340-300s?

Regards.



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User currently offlineCxcx330 From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

Well.. I wonder what the new callsign of "Swiss Airlines" will be. Still "Swissair"? Will the logo still have a white-cross inside red colour?

I've heard that Swissair MD-11 would go to Fedex. But now they will go to Lufthansa instead?

I think Swiss Airlines will have a better profit when they fly the A340 than the MD-11. As the A340-300 is really burnt less fuel. But it will flies slower than the MD-11.

By the way, Lufthansa currently get 35 A340-300s. Among them 20 of them are A340-300 and 15 of them are A340-300X.


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

LH will get some A346. Instead of adding new frequencies or destinations, LH could also replace the A343 with bigger A346 to add capacity on the strongest routes.

I doubt, that Swiss Airlines will fly to SFO and PHL, as both are not amongst the gateways of any potential US partner, and Swiss Airlines won't add new destinations in the near future.



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