HS-LTA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 1999, 231 posts, RR: 1 Posted (14 years 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1969 times:
I just read the yahoo news from taiwan.
The three pilots on CI011 flight admitted they made mistake during take-off at ANC.
The F/O who is first time to ANC handled the t/o roll. When CI-011 taxiing to rwy 32. They got clearance for t/o. But the taxiing into a taxiway. During the take-off roll, the pilots found out they are on wrong runway.But it is over V1, so, they continuos the take off roll.
Spitfire From France, joined Feb 2001, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1807 times:
And one thing more, you have to check your gyro in C-152 (or any other small a/c) when on the runway and reset it to the rwy QFU (it more easy than in flight with your Colsman moving from one side to another...)
Sabena ... Never to be forgotten (12 years already , what a shame !! )
CV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (14 years 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1695 times:
All the crews I fly with check and make sure the heading and runway alignment agree. This is done to make sure the AHRS(Attitude Heading Reference System, a high tech gyro baiscally) is working properly and agree with each other(we have two in the aircraft I've flown) along with the proper runway.
In aircarft with gyros we did this as stated above to make sure our heading indiactor and compass were correct.
As for taking off in 6000 or so feet in a A340, remeber the data airlines use for runways is with an engine failure and a climb to 35 feet. They probably rotated real close to the end and if they had an engine faluire, well we would be reading about a lot more then them taking off on a taxi way.
Seagull From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 340 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (14 years 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1648 times:
As I recall, the 2 and 3 letter airline (and the 3 letter airport codes, but not the 4 letter) are put together by IATA. ICAO does the 4 letter airport codes.
They are universally accepted by all the airlines, travel industry and the rest of aviation, plus all govt regulatory authorities such as Transport Ministries, DOT, etc.
The codes for the stock exchange are not accepted nor used out of that context, so stock trading and the SEC is about all you see them used for.
The CAL crew made a bad mistake, but not one that hasn't been made by many experienced crews from airlines all over the world, unfortunately. Complacency and thinking it can't happen to you are your enemies here.
A330 From Belgium, joined May 1999, 652 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (14 years 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1604 times:
Listen, these guys made such an error that it defies belief... Even from your first flight hour, you are drilled to CHECK your gyro align with runway heading. You never forget that for that is as normal as walking. I wonder who trains these guys...