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Air NZ To Taipei.  
User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1401 times:

Qantas had to set up a separate company, Australia Asia to serve Taipei so as not to offend the Chinese Government.
Japan Airlines had Japan Asia, BA had British Asia, and so on.
But Air New Zealand serves Taipei in its own right under its own name. They didn't have to set up a separate operation.
Anyone know why ANZ was treated differently compared to the others?

Cheers,
Mike (NZWN)  Smile

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User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Australia Asia has demised already few years ago.

However, low-cost Australian airlines will be flying to Taipei from Cairns, one of the route used to operated by Australia Asia.

NZ and Taiwan signed the air traffic agreement (not sure what's the official name) back in 1991 or 1992, and China seems like having no problems about this.

I guess China was having no problem about this because NZ is a neutral country politically?


User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

Yeah I know Aussie Asia has gone now Jim.
Used to be good seeing their 767s coming into Wellington before they changed to the 747SPs.
Thanks for the info about the agreement.
Thought it may have been something like that.

Mike (NZWN)


User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4576 posts, RR: 41
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1328 times:

The point is more that Air New Zealand doesnt fly to People's Republic of China. I believe the politics behind it is that the PRC refuses tobe served by the same airline that serves ROC: hence all the Asia divisions...

V/F



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User currently offlineMegatop747-412 From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

I too wondered about the same question - why "?? Asia" for some airlines, e.g. BAA (British Asia), Qantas Asia, and Swissair Asia?... Don't quite understand how that works...

VirginFlyer - your comment do seemed fair and valid, but then, what about heaps of other SE-Asian carriers like SQ, MH, TG etc that serve BOTH PRC and ROC???...

Anyone has any ideas??

Cheers!



User currently offlineAirzim From Zimbabwe, joined Jun 2001, 1239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

BA is pulling out of TPE, so has SR. Looks like KL and AF are left

User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2544 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

AirNZ loads at the moment to Taipei are real CRAP!! I will not be too surprised if they pull out!!

But then again, i think they will stay just to have their name there!!

Mike


User currently offlineAerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7394 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 20 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

Mike I think NZ is more likely to codeshare with Eva than stay just to keep their name there.

User currently offlineAirNewZealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2544 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

Yes Aerorobnz, I never thought of that point!! Good one!!

Cheers
Mike


User currently offlineAir Taiwan From Australia, joined Dec 1999, 1518 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 4 hours ago) and read 1210 times:

Please refer to this topic discussed a few months ago "British Asia Airways - What Is It?!

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/605278/

quite a detailed discussion i'd say...

cheers!

Jimmy



User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

This is probably the best time of year to fly to TPE as the chinese new year is coming up so at the moment I would say flights are quite full NZ and BR have put on extra flights to cope with demand, but for alot of the year its like a nothing market. I think NZ should drop their own flights and codeshare with BR and fly the 763 to ICN or mainland China where year round there is alot more demand.

User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Shanghai was on the cards for Air NZ a few years back wasn't it NBT?
Yeah, a slice of ICN would be good too instead of leaving it all for KE.
New destinations I would like to see, and I reckon they'd be viable are Auckland-Sao Paulo via Rio de Janeiro.
Would also be a Star Alliance tie-up with Varigs domestic and European services.

Mike (WLG)  Smile


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5359 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1176 times:

Last I heard was that they were still eyeing the Chinese market.  Smile
Yes and KE do really well on AKL-ICN currently 10 744's weekly 2 go via NAN!


User currently offlineJet_guy From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1161 times:

I was talking to some of the KE flightcrew, and they are quite happy with the loads between AKL-ICN.

Sam


User currently offlineKiwi dave From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1154 times:

If Air NZ starts flying to new destinations then new planes will be needed.

maybe the 777 will finally be seen in Air NZ colours or maybe more 763 and 744's for the fleet.


User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Yes, the Triple-Seven would look good in ANZ colours eh Dave! Big grin

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