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TG To Opt For Either A380 Or 747-400 This Year  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Thai Airways to choose between Airbus A380 and Boeing B747-400 in 2002

AFX Europe; Jan 29, 2002

PARIS (AFX) - Thai Airways International commercial director for France Gilles Ringwald said the company will make a choice between the Airbus Industrie A380 or the Boeing Co B747-400 some time this year.

Thai's fellow Star Alliance members Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines have already opted for the A380.

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User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3142 times:

Lets hope they go for the 747-400

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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21415 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

I´m sure they just love to have a bargaining situation with an alternative for the first time...  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3078 times:

I think it would be nice to see TG getting A380. Can they compete with the other airlinesif they don't? They may loose status becuse they don't fly the biggest a/c in the world, while for example SQ does.
I hope to see the A380 in TG colours and I belive it will happen.

GOT



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User currently offlineTC-MNC From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

I agree GOT!

Also want to see a A380 in TG c/s.

Dennis


User currently offlineRj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

Oh, Braniffplace......!

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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3016 times:

Not the B747-400 Smile but the B747-400ER.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2992 times:

747-400, 747-400ER. Doesn't matter. Thai are going to invest in the future, not the ancient past. The 747 is a great aircraft (my all-time favourite) but when an airline come to invest literally billions of dollars on their new flagship which they will fly for the next 20 years, aren't they going to invest it in a design which will still be in production, indeed just hitting it's stride (like the 744 in the 90s), or are they going to invest in a design which is in it's final incarnation and will probably be out of production in about ten years? Which aircraft is going to be easiest keep adding to the fleet over the years, which will have the highest second hand value?

The A380 will look gorgeous in the Thai livery as well.



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User currently offlineStratofish From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1051 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Shouldn´t they just consider their predicted load-factors?
I mean these a/c s are in different segments they could easily choose some of both types since they aren´t similar a/c s (except for almost same range of course).



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Cedarjet:

Boeing has made it clear that they are fully committed to the B 747 and the B 747 will be in production for at least 30 years to come.

Right now, they are improving the B 747-400.....


User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2922 times:

Time will tell. It doesn't matter if their flagship is the A380 or the 744ER if they can't get the loads. Hell, if a national airline could only fill an RJ, make that the flagship airplane, not a large jet that will just make them lose money.

User currently offlineNightcruiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Maybe Thai should order BOTH the A380 and the 747! Now that would be something! Big grin

User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1861 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

FWIW, both Air France and Qantas will operate the A380 and the B744ER.

User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2868 times:

I think, given what's happened so far with the A380, that I feel pretty safe saying that an airline like 777-300, 747-400, MD-11 operator Thai will surely go A380.


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User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

Are there any flights for Thai that is suitable for A380 to fly, in terms of numbers of passengers?

If not, then I think 747 will still be the choice.


User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2802 times:

I rather Thai go for the 747 anytime. More sense economically, and physically less straining on both BKK and Thai.


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User currently offlineB-HOP From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2000, 623 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

A380, see how packed BKK-LHR were


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5981 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

I thought that the current 744 frame was already at is limit, thus disabling further improvements/additions to it.

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

A380, see how packed BKK-LHR were

Is this the only route that needs A380? May be they can just order the 747 and increase their frequencies.

I don't really see any Thai flights need A380s.



User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2728 times:
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>May be they can just order the 747 and increase their frequencies. <

Yes, maybe LHR can magically make appear more slots.



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User currently offlineVermeer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 447 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

and maybe, pardon me for going slightly off topic here, they should upgrade their business class, it is really dreadful.

User currently offlineBoeingnut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

Well, maybe they should wait. We've all seen problems that the first versions of AC have (cough...MD-11..cough). It's just like the software business, you should stay away from x.0 versions. From what I've heard on this forum and other webpages, the a380 is leaning towards being a bit more husky than they planned, so it might have some problems. On the other hand, Airbus might have the right product right off the bat. It's all these factors that Thai (and all the other airlines out there that have not yet commmited to the a380) are going to have to consider.

And to all these people saying that the 747 is outdated. The 747-400 is a relativley new aircraft (rolled out in 1989). The only main thing that it has in common with the 747-100,200,300 is the humped upper deck. The 744 has totally new avionics compared to the classic 747s, a new wing, pretty much new everythings. It's like comparing the Indy cars from the 1960's to today's Indy cars. Heck, they both have four wheel, an open cockpit, and the drivers all wear helmets, and open wheels.

Personally, Im going to say that Thai will go with some more 744s for now, and also have some 380s on the order books so they can get a few (probably 2007, maybe 2008) when the current order book is emptied.


User currently offlineAOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1302 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2679 times:

A380 ALL THE WAY !!!!!

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (12 years 6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

Too bad good old Franz Josef Strauss is dead - he was really successful bribing, ahem, bargaining the way for the A310 with Thai...

Daniel Smile


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