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User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32613 posts, RR: 72
Posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2403 times:

Didn't take long for them to react. American Airlines is steaming a demanding an apology, according to Miami's local FOX affiliate, at CNN for publishing a story (see "No more A300s trans-Atlantic") stating that they were ending trans-Atlantic A300 flights due to the November crash, when the fact is this retirement of A300s over the Atlantic was announced months ago.


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User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2124 times:

CNN should be sued for something like that. They are putting fear in passenger's minds where there is no need for it. AA has gone through enough last year, and the story by CNN is no help.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineDash80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2078 times:

Looks like CNN.com pulled it's story about this from it's site. It was there this morning.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7527 posts, RR: 28
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2019 times:

Yeah, I saw this story on CNN this morning and thought what???????? This is completely false reporting! I am sick on the media which seems to be waging war against the aviation industry. This was planned to happen, for the A300's to be pulled from trans-Atlantic. Too bad they are still flying from the East Coast to the Carribean. There's really no difference and why that would be done for any safety reasons has no basis. 10 pilots switching, wow, big deal, out of 400+ A300 pilots, thats no story at all. Maybe CNN should've looked at AA's news releases.

FOR RELEASE: Thursday, May 10, 2001
AMERICAN ORDERS NEW BOEING AIRCRAFT

FORT WORTH, Texas – American Airlines today announced it has placed an order for 15 new GE-powered Boeing 767-300ER widebody aircraft. The 190-seat aircraft, to be delivered to American in 2002 and 2003, will further the airline’s strategy of simplifying its fleet. Terms of the purchase were not disclosed.

Some of the new aircraft will replace TWA’s nine Pratt & Whitney-powered 767s, which are not common to American’s existing fleet of 79 GE-powered 767s. The remainder of the new 767 order will replace American’s three-class Airbus A300-600s on North Atlantic routes, allowing American to standardize its transatlantic services on Boeing 767 and 777 aircraft. The Airbus aircraft will be refitted with two-class interiors and deployed to serve American’s Caribbean and Latin American markets – missions for which the A300 is ideally suited, from both a range and cargo capacity standpoint.

"The standardization of our 767 aircraft and the simplification of our transatlantic fleet to just two aircraft types will yield tremendous efficiencies for American," said Tom Horton, American’s senior vice president of finance and chief financial officer.

The redeployment of the A300s will free a number of 757 and 737 narrowbody aircraft to move into American’s domestic system. Moving the smaller Boeings into the domestic system will give American added scheduling flexibility and will ultimately reduce the need to purchase additional narrowbody aircraft.

American currently operates a fleet of 719 aircraft. This year, it will take delivery of 55 new Boeing aircraft, while retiring 39 aircraft. TWA operates 178 aircraft.



User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1896 times:

Cactus- i completely agree with you on your LGB Photo comment.

As good as CNN is, they need to stop making up stories like this. They could announce that AA is pulling the A300 off trans-atlantics, but they should have noted that it was scheduled before the crash and had already been in the plans.

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Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1876 times:

Boy, that's weird...

I read that very article and it stated (albeit in the 3rd or 4th paragraph) that the A300 transatlantic phase-out WAS slated pre-crash, and how larger jets were now available.

Funny how we see what we want to.


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1855 times:

Heavy, that is the AA press release, here is the one from CNN:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/722598/

Regards,

Staffan


User currently offlineN400QX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1791 times:

Yeah, I saw this story on CNN this morning about 6 Pacific... I barely caught the end of it, but I got the same feeling that this was due to the crash.

Nice job, CNN.

Anyway, I can't wait to see the American A300 fleet grounded.... lets order some more 767s.


User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1753 times:

The term "Sky Nazi" is a 'term of endearment' bestowed on AA by other airline pilots. It's a pilot thing. It has nothing to do with the events of the day or AA protecting their image. Everybody in the industry knows, including AA pilots, that when you are talking about the "Sky Nazis", you are talking about AA.

Also, American Eagle has been nicknamed the "Hitler Youth" in reference to the name bestowed on their big brother AA. Many airlines have been given such nicknames. They also call Southwest the "Borg"...


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1707 times:
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LGB, you're waaaaaaaaay out of line here. AA is definitely a victim of irresponsible reporting, designed to capitalize on the sensationalism of the loss of an A-300.




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User currently offlineUsa4624 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 266 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

So the A300s will be retired along with the 717s?

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8060 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

No one said anything about AA retiring A300s.


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User currently offlineLGB Photos From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Hahaha, I am gonna have to remember that Hitler Youth!

User currently offlineLGB Photos From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

AA did a big mistake by retiring the 717s and not ordering more

User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1567 times:

'SKY NAZIS........EVIL EAGLE......AMERIFLOT'... all appropriate monikers!

Thomas



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User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1534 times:
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well, whats new... the press is usually wrong.... I like BBC... CNN is ok, but it has been going down the tubes more and more... argh, the search for reliable news these days!!  Big grin
-AA777


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1781 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

Why is AA called "Sky Nazis"?.......and this is just a question.......before I get flamed!


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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

imho calling someone sky nazis, or hitler youth, isn't very funny..it's just stupid.

User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

A little bit of good news to A^A fans who wanted to get back at CNN:

FOX News Channel beat CNN in ratings for the first time in January, taking over CNN's 15 year record. Now CNN is second.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1184 times:

Sky Nazis, hehehe.

NO MORE FLYING FOR YOU!! NEXT!


User currently offlineGoAllegheny From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

The fact that Fox News beat CNN is probably one of the reasons that CNN is now running more sensationalist pieces. As I said yesterday in a separate post on this topic, stories (whether real or invented) sell viewership more than facts.

User currently offlineAOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1302 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1121 times:

"CNN" Fewwwww...
Too big for me. Let's prefer Euronews  Wink/being sarcastic


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7527 posts, RR: 28
Reply 22, posted (12 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1081 times:

One question I have is how did CNN find out this piece of information? I'm sure they weren't sitting there pouring through AA's flight schedule and AA didn't make a public announcement about it. I mean, it would be one thing for someone on the website to find it because, heck, people on here nearly memorize them and are very aware of certain airlines or airport's ops.

What I'm saying is someone had to tip CNN off about this event and provide them with some fuel for their fire. Most likely someone who doesn't like AA or Airbus. What about that group of pilots that are against flying the A300 and calling for a grounding? Do you think this was some propaganda they fed the media with? maybe.....But to do what good? Hurt AA and Airbus at any rate. I agree CNN has really gone downhill since this past summer. When they made their changeover to their new formaton CNN Headline News in August they sunk to a new low. Sensationalist garbage mostly now. I can't stand how their anchors pretend to be so dumb, or either they are, or how they try to dumb down their newscast to the stupid people.


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1006 times:

I wouldn't put too much stock into what is reported by journalists on the news; they almost always read more into what is happening than is actually the case.


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineRC Pilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 993 times:

CNN

Communist News Network


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