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Why Does ATC Refer Refer To "company" Traffic  
User currently offlineMatt_milligan From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 79 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5770 times:

Why do air traffic controllers refer to "company" traffic?

"traffic on the south parellel is a company 767"

"your number two a following company Dash 8"

Is the pilot supposed to use extra care following company traffic? A 767 is a 767 isn't it? What difference does it make if it is company 767?

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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5743 times:

Cuz it sounds silly saying 'United XXX, you're behind a United 747'




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User currently offlineMatt_milligan From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5739 times:

ATC usually does not refer to the company if it is another airlines 747? At least not here in Toronto. You would never here United XXX you are behind an Air Canada 747. ATC would say "you are following a 747"

User currently offlineTurbineBeaver From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5736 times:

Often, when looking for traffic, it helps to be able to see the particular color scheme. If they say "Company Traffic" you automatically know it is your company c/s!

TB


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

Another context...

When the 727 and the 172 had the mid-air in San Diego back in the late 1970s, a PSA flight (a little later) was heard to ask ATC about the big fire on the ground, and what it was...

The reply was "company tri-jet", which is about the most sobering radio transcript excerpt I've ever read...


User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5702 times:

Also, in general aviaiton. If a student is on a solo flight or something happens that an FBO wants their plane on the ground. The tower will come on and say company called they want you to full stop (if doing touch and goes).

User currently offlineNZ767 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 1620 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5656 times:

Matt,

Simple answer!
They say "Company" whenever the aircraft they're referring to belongs to the same airline as the one they're talking to.
Eg: If telling a United 747 pilot to report sighting a United 767 at two miles, they will say something like "United XXX, report sighting company 767, 2 miles".

As to your question, "Is the pilot supposed to use extra care following company traffic?", well, I'm sure his workmates would like him to! Big grin

Mike (NZWN)



User currently offlineGive it a GO From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5606 times:

It's used more frequently whilst issuing taxi instrctions...

"Go Flight 123 after the company 737 has passed you left to right taxi to holding point Y via taxi way X..."

"Go Flight 321 after the landing company 737 line up and wait runway 23..."

It makes sense really. Both of those two examples above would work equally as well with another carriers name being used, but its easier all round for pilots and ATC to say "company" when able to.


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