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SW To HNL Or ANK  
User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 806 times:

When people think of the next SW citied most think of the 48 mainland states, but SW could do HNL etops and ANK from many w/coast destinations.
what do you think?


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User currently offlineClipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 731 times:

Not this year. Aloha starts service to Oakland this February and may prompt Southwest to look at Hawaii....we will have to see. Aloha will use 737-700.


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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 710 times:

could SW do PHX-HNL? or would they be restricted to flights from LAX. Either way i think SW might do it.


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User currently offlineHypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 710 times:

Are they restricted to LAX-HNL? Don't forget SJC, SFO, or OAK. They could probably do HNL from any one of those these cities.

I don't see HNL becoming a WN destination. It doesn't seem to be a really profitable route. Most of the big guys do this route to keep their frequent flyers happy.

The reason I don't think WN will go to HNL is that none of their aircraft are EOW equipped. This means that certain aircraft will need to be equipped for a specific route. That will add a layer of complexity that Southwest avoids.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 707 times:

I don't see either of these destinations coming on line for SW anytime soon. I think that they might consider going international (Vancouver, BC, or Calgary) before they would consider ANC or HNL.

ANC has a proverbial air bridge to SEA with flights leaving almost every hour. The West Coast to HNL is just too long of a flight. SW would have to outfit their galleys with meal service capabilty and probably inflight entertainment if they want to be competitive. Aloha's 737-700s will have both, something that I just don;t think SW would consider doing.


User currently offlineHypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 705 times:

Planenutz missed the boat on this one. I don't think you'll ever see a galley or TV screen on a Southwest aircraft. That just goes against their business model.

Southwest started doing LAS-BWI non-stop. They thought about introducing a meal on the flight, but then they decided to keep on doing things they way they've successfully been doing it for over 25 years.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 701 times:

How did I miss the boat?


User currently offlineHypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 701 times:

One of the strenghts in Southwest's business success is their consistency and commonality. If they put a galley in a few of their aircraft and equip them for over-water use, that means that they have another dependency in their scheduling. Right now, this requirement isn't part of their system.


User currently offlinePlanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 698 times:

Thats why I said that I DONT see WN starting service to HNL.



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