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User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 866 times:

why do you think that AR is doing so bad when other airlines in argentina are doing so well?

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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4313 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 763 times:

Well, Hi there, nice to see you:
I'll tell you why. AR is like a mammoth in & cat's cage.
AR is way to big, has to many 747's (to bad for me), & is trying to compete internationally, going into debt, & forgetting about their only source of profit, DOMESTIC SERVICE! Also, like you have mentioned, people know the service on board is not good. I know what they should do in fact about the bitchy FA's: Dump'em all.
Then you go into the street across Argentina, you hire those thousands of teenagers & young girls that are UNEMPLOYED right now, & offer them jobs. You train them, & that's it. I bet you they will treat you like royalty, because they don't want to loose their jobs. In fact, my cousin knows a friend of hers that wants to be a flight attendant. She is attractive, 1,81cm (5,10in)tall, friendly, etc. She can't get the job because of everyone that works in AR has been placed there as "Acomodados", if you understand this. So, if AR wants to survive, they should follow the advice I just gave here.

On another note, were are you from, Bacardi182?
It seems you want to go back home, huh?  
Derico



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User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 753 times:

im living in buenos aires now, my old home is dallas. why would a want to go back? the women here are amazing, the steaks here are unbelievable, and there is nothing better then going to a disco or bar with lots of hot women and not going home till 7am.

my problem is that i hate aerolineas, i have flown with them many times and have never had a flight that has not been absolutly horrible. the only thing good about aerolineas is that they serve me alcohol because the drinking age is only 18 in argentina.

i love your idea on how to get rid of the bitchy flight attendants. it'll never happen but we can dream can't we. ar needs to get rid of the 747's and replace them with A340 or the A330. they could save money by using the same pilots. they already have a few A340's. they could also benifit from some government support and replace their aging fleet or 737-200s. thats what LAPA did and they seem to be making money.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4313 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 747 times:

I know, huh? I think the FA's idea was the best one I've had in months, if I can say so myself!
Good point on the fleet, they should standarize more, so they don't spends so much money on training. The 747's are nice, but, if Swissair had to dump them, AR may have no choice given it's financial condition. They shouldnt feel bad about this, though, it seems many airlines are dumping the Jumbos...it is very sad?
(makes you wonder about what the A3XX will have to face?)
Dallas, Texas. Sorry buddy, your Cowboys lost. Miami WON! Of course, they will probably get killed by Jacksonville.
Don't drink to much, though. Argentina has one of the WORST rates of traffic deaths in the world, 26 per 1000, against 15 per 1000 in the U.S, with so many more cars here! The reason people get killed so much more in Argentina: Drunk teenagers behind the wheel, & also those stupid DRAG RACES (Picadas, in Argentinian). Why do these kids get their cars, or their Daddy's car, hook it up, spend so much money on this to go at 2:00 in the morning to drag race in the streets and expressways...it happens all over the country. Don't do it, already!!! (Sorry, nothing to do with flying, but I'm very upset about all the people dying there because of trying to simply SHOW OFF to their drunk Girlfriends!!!)
Derico
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User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 736 times:

i hate the cowboys! im glad they lost. my beloved dolphins better not lose to jacksonville. i do drink allot but i dont drive, that would be stuiped. i always use remises, its much easier. that drag racing crap is stuiped, its just to many rich kids with their fast car that they got as a birthday present. i have actually seen the drag racing before. me and my friends were at an am pm at 2 in the morning in acasuso. the crazy ass holes were racing on libertador! the worste drivers are the taxi drivers. i got in a taxi at like 6 in the mornig once and told the driver to drive fast. i say god damn! he was crazy, his taxi cab had a ferrari racing steering wheel on it!

User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4313 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 737 times:

Sorry, I'm not to familiar with Buenos Aires. I have been there before, I'm just not familiar with the streets.
When I was living in Mendoza (hopefully you know where this is) I was to young to really understand, but I remember seeing some idiots with there VW gols or their Fiat dunas driving thru Bolougne Sur Mer avenue, which goes right thru Parque San Martin!! I broad daylight, & with little kids playing around!! I can't imagine what that place looks like now, with so many more people, with some many more cars, not that people can get them with credit!! Also, four kids died ten blocks from my house...they were drag racing in a WINDING street, & hit a tree. I have never dragded race with my car.
Anyways, this has nothing to do with aviation, but it does make me mad. So many things make me mad lately...



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User currently offlineCometII From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 729 times:

What is all this about drivings??
Anyways, I did fly AR once from Sao Paulo to Buenos Aires. The service was not good, but I could live with it for that time alone. Yes, I don't know why FA's in AR are so bad. The flight was the worst part of my vacations, Buenos Aires is such a beautiful city, also the night life...( & yes, the girls are good!)


User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 717 times:

I have flown with Aerolineas all my life. The true decadence in service started in 1990 when it was privatized. Since then it has been under foreign management (with no state intervention) first by Iberia and since 1998 by American Airlines. I think part of the lack of motivation of the airline´s staff is the erratic management on which they been living through. On the other side, Aerolineas service is not consistent, as for example it starts a route and then it drop the service leaving the space to the competition. For this reason they have lost many loyal consumers during the past ten years to other carriers.

The onboard staff is not that bad, many that I have seen on many flights are very nice and professional so is not accurate to say that all fall in this category. I agree that cabin staff with a bad attitude destroy the airline image on the consumer. However, I still feel safe flying Aerolineas and for us born in Argentina it is somehow like being home when boarding in a distant foreign station.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4313 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (14 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 712 times:

Hi, Lima:
Interesting you showed up, just with me.
You make valid points, & a smart airline would use that "feel at home" advantage with its "compatriotas"
Unfortunately, no airline can survive simply with the home crowd. They need to attract foreigners to travel with AR, & it is here were they have failed. Like you said, they are not consistent, & if a foreign tourist gets bad service, forget it, they will not give them a second chance.
You are 100% right about AR as private. The government seemed to do a better job than Iberia or American. American really did nothing to help AR, in fact, I think they were even trying to finish it. Let's hope AR can turn around, first by focusing on the lucrative domestic services, then on international routes.
Derico



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