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User currently offlineCapK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 676 times:

I KNOW there are a number of pilots on this forum, most, very professional. But really guys, lets hear about them. You know, when you were in that 152 and saw a familiar neighborhood. You decended to 500ft agl and kinda held it there--thinking---should I?
Now tell me about the rest of that daring buzz!
How did it feel? What was the outcome of it?
Would you/ have you done it again???
Lastly, what are the violations for getting caught doing that?
Best regards'

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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 674 times:

One of the airlines back home flys everybody up to one of the fishing streams north of town every fourth of July to go fishing/beachcombing. It is standard procedure to make a couple of flybys at about 250 agl because of the number of brown bears(Grizzlies bigger brother) in the area. This shoos the bears awar from the fishing hole. It just wouldn't do to have somebody eaten.

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 674 times:

First of all you should not fly lower then if your engine fails you can land safely. I live in Socal so I can not do that also I live right under the ILS of SNA. I think that this is a pointless mision and I would no recommend it to anyone.
But back to the point a friend of mine used to fly his ultralight of a nude resort really low! Also he flew over a duck preserve with his hand gun and shoot the ducks. He also would chase the cioties. This seems to me very stupid I have no plans to do any buzzing and you should not make it your mission! But FedEx has a good dtory about buzzing!

User currently offlineaviator_ua From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 674 times:

I can tell you that I saw a friend of mine buzz a barbque
his mother was having out in the yard. One thing though, he never checked the density altitude numbers that day, stalled the aircraft nose high and lost it and his life. Dont forget, when you perform maneuvers such as this, you are increasing the load on the aircraft which also increases stall speed to a very high value.
Something as easy sounding as a quick buzz-job can be dangerous indeed. Show professionalism when in control of an aircraft. Stunts should be left for the stunt pilots.

User currently offlineCool Cat IIIc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 675 times:

I absolutely and totally agree with aviator_ua. Anyone who cannot refrain from doing dangerous things like this should not be allowed to fly.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 30410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 675 times:

You know I have read a couple of posts so far on this topic and I think I am going to pipe in a couple more comments. The first one is going to be contriversial. Low flying is nessicary in certian cases to have safe operations. Now before everyone really gets riled up I am going to list some of them. All of them are just about moot for flying in Socal but if you are in remote areas they can be lifesavers.

I already mentioned my earlier post about flying low to soo away animals. There have been a couple of cases down in the lower forty eight of aircraft hitting deer on roll out. If you fly the approach then execute a go-around about five or ten feet off the runway so that hopefully unseen deer will have run off the runway and you won't hit them.

It is also a good idea if you are flying skis to make one or two passes over the landing area before seting down. You are again looking for obsticals that you may hit that could be under the snow. The same applies if you are on wheels. Depending on the conditions you may also be chucking out spruce boughs or other dark materials so when you actually land you don't lose depth perception. A real danger when you have a white on white background. If you are setting down on a glaicer or snowfield you are looking for shadows that may indicate where a crevase may be hiding under a thin layer of snow. There is a great picture showing the bush pilot Bob Reeve digging out a Fokker 71 when it when into a crevasse. Missed that one! If you are landing on frozen lakes you want to make a couple low flybys looking for obsiticals and then actully make a couple of touch and go's but with a roll out the length that you want to go. You actually arn't putting much of the plane weight on the ice because what you are trying to do is guage how thick the ice is. When you go around you look at your tracks and if the start turning a blue color, you cracked the ice and water is seeping up through the cracks. You definatly don't want to set down there. There is a great case of the Air Force putting a C-123J through the ice. They wern't able to get it out of the river until that spring and wheren't able to fly it it out until the next winter!! If you are on skis you can save you a lot of work stamping down a runway by making a couple high speed passes to pack down a runway out for you.

Flying low is a safe manuver if it is done by pilots with the skills nessicary. After all Ag-Pilot routinely fly only about five or 10 feet off the ground. In some of the other cases that have been mentioned, skill and common sense where lacking. But low flight is a skill that can earn you a living in the case of a duster or keep you from spending the night on some frozen lake somewhere. The University of Alaska-Anchorage has a introduction to bush flying class that covers some of the aspects that I just talked about. I belive that UAA Fairbanks has a simular program.

Plz don't try these things at home without first getting the proper instruction.

User currently offlineCapK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 674 times:

Believe me, I know the many dangers out there in the world of flight and at my stage, even though I can be QUITE arrogant in this field, I would not try one of these manuevers w/out proper instructions from a pilot which are also unlawful in the area I live in. I am less than 3 or 4 miles from TPA and use a smaller airport's 152's for my training. First of all, it is not my plane, secondly, I wouldn't do anything like that to put anyone in danger. It generates quite a bit of stress on the aircraft.
The reason I wanted to bring it up is because, I absolutely love to hear thise "one time" stories, where, very respectable pilots have pulled a stunt like this. I have read numerous instructional books where the author warns the reader of the dangers and violations before going ahead and explaining the proper way to do it. There have only been 2 pilots out of about 25 who have claimed they have never tried this venture. But please, do not get the wrong idea. Stupidity and immaturity will lead to big problems anywhere, especially in the sky.

User currently offlineaviator_ua From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (17 years 4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 674 times:

You are right. There are cases in which low/slow flight is needed.
Buzz-jobs though are quite a different story.

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