Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 58 Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 2010 times:
The USA has considered Iran and its leaders trouble for a long time, its only news at the time because of the President's speech (Axis of Evil) and speculation as to what is next in the War on Terror. How does this effect the A330s? Does the USA consider any of the components of the A330 sensitive techonology for military purposes?
Europe is not as upset with Iran as the US is, and many European nations are trying to establish normal trading and diplomatic relationships with Iran (one reason why that part of the Bush speech was not very well received in Europe), thus, if Iran wants the A330s and can pay for them, unless something changes in the upcoming months, the aircraft are likely to go to Iran as planned.
Yak42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 799 posts, RR: 7 Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1980 times:
They cant be delivered to IranAir because of some US manufactured components in them.
Why does'nt IranAir just forget about them and get some new Il96s instead, I dont think there is or has to be any US manufactured content in the Aviadvigatel PS90 powered models.
Or even get some second hand A330s since there must be some available now.
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2036 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1975 times:
The "axis of evil" rhetoric is only a vote-grabbing ploy for the pick-up driving yahoos in the Midwest. I think many people agree that lumping Iran with North Korea and Iraq was not the brightest of moves, so bring on those A330's!
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1931 times:
First of all, it isn't a "hate" list...it's a list of countries that support terrorist activities.
Second, I don't think the A330s will be delivered as long as there are sanctions in place that block most American goods from being sold in Afghanistan, I doubt that the A330s (of which 40% of each plane is claimed to be American-made, or so Airbus says) will be delivered.
If many of the conservative leaders of Iran bow out in the next round of elections, and/or the reformist movement within the government takes some concrete steps toward curbing Iran's involvement with terrorist regimes, then we may see a partial lifting of American sanctions, which would allow the A330s to be delivered.
Maybe in the meantime Iran Air should consider some Tu-204s or Il-96s???
Woodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1023 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1933 times:
How utterly ridiculous this whole thing is, just when US-Iranian relations were warming a bit, our duffus president found it necessary to compare Iran to North Korea and Iraq! Funny that Iran Air currently operates a number of Boeing aircraft, I bet the next thing Busshy will do is send in the Marines to bomb their 747-SPs, we cant have them flying around in those American made beauties!
He is an idiot, the leaders of this country are much more interested in placating the lowest common denominator of the American public who are the ones who vote good old boys like Bush into office.
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 23 Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1920 times:
Woodsboy: IIRC, the Boeing-made aircraft came into Iran's position before the current government came to power.
And although trying to establish better relations with Iran may have been the smarter thing to do rather than naming it in an "Axis of Evil," the fact that Iran's policies are still created by a cadre of super-conservative clerics doesn't exactly make close-knit ties to the country the best option either.