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Trans Pacific Restructuring Complete!  
User currently offlineDL 604 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 691 times:

Hello all!
It's been a long time since my last dedicated Trans Pacific post, and quite a few changes have been made. The first ideas, route, plans, etc were, well, a little crazy and just plain nuts, but now I would like to see what you think of the NEW Trans Pacific Airlines.
This is going to be a REAL airline, not virtual.

Trans Pacific Airlines will hopefully be launched the first day of Fall on the year 2012. We will have only one aircraft, and Airbus A340-500, and we will fly it on a simple route plan between Honolulu, Seattle, Ontario (California), and Tokyo (Narita).
The A340 will not be purchased in whole, we will progressively buy it on a lease-to-own plan, unless some billionaire takes interest in Trans Pacific. The aircraft will be flown every day.
If we can successfully accomplish a 30-40 minute turnaround time, we shouldn't have to buy another A340, one will do. We will have two flight crews, one for Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday, and the other for the days in between.
Pay will be reasonable for a startup, about 35-50 thousand dollars a year, depending on previous experience. 20 thousand dollars is our base for all staff pay, even ticket agents. I think that's fair enough.
But, to be honest, I know nothing of flight crew pay. If you have any info you could contribute I would greatly appreciate it.  
We will be based in Honolulu, making us the first international carrier to be based in Hawaii.
After earning enough money to buy a new aircraft from a percentage of revenue set aside for expansion (about 20%), we will purchase a single Airbus A320, and fly it etween the cities of Salt Lake City, Seattle and Ontario, to feed passengers farther inland to the Pacific coast where they can connect with a flight to Hawaii or Asia. Later, we will purchase Boeing 757-400 aircraft for longer domestic flights, such as Seattle-Anchorage. We will have key hubs within the US domestic sector to feed passenger to the west coast. Here's the plan:
Hubs in Seattle, Salt Lake, Austin, Newark, and Chicago Midway. If you're from the Southeast, you'll connect first through Austin then through SLC, where you can catch an A340. If you're from the Northeast, you connect through Chicago, then SLC. From the Midwest, SLC, from the Pacific Northwest, SEA or SLC, and the West, ONT, SEA or SLC. It's all really to get people from the East to the West, to catch an A340.

Asia-
First hub will be Tokyo Narita. Then we will expand south along the Pacific coast all the way down to Singapore, all with 767-400s to Hawaii. Then, we will start a scaled down domestic service using Boeing 737-800s and Airbus A321s. We will expand westward from the Pacific coast into Europe, with a hub in Helsinki. All European flights will go through HEL, coming or going, then to Tokyo. The reason for this is that transAtlantic travel is pretty well covered. It would be follish to try and compete with airline like British Airways, so we go the opposite way, over Asia and Trans Pacific, filling our niche.

Australia-
Hub in either Sydney or Melbourne, with domestic service only to Perth using a Boeing 738.

Pacific Islands-
Boeing 737-800 service to all islands with airports, gradual expansion. All Pacific Island flights will go through HNL, LIH and HTO, in Hawaii.

South America-
Much like North America. Airbus A330 service from hubs in Lima, Bogota and Santiago. Domestic feeder to West Coast using Airbus A320s.
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Now, you may ask, why have both 757s and A321s, AND 738s and A320s. It's simple, I operate BOTH Boeing and Airbus, and I want to balance this in all my markets. For trans-Pac flights you fly an A340 from say, Seattle to Honolulu, then connect with a 764 to go to Asia. Of course this is years after startup, when I hopefully have enough money to buy such aircraft. In the first few years though it'll be Airbus all they way. Why? Because they are efficient and CHEAP. And for the beginning years, cheap is the most important thing in buying an aircraft. Then when financially stable, we will purchase equally efficient Boeings, especially the 767/757 family. (They are great).

Classes-
Forget first and business class! There are three classes, but two cost the same!
First, there's Pacific Elite. Yes you will get a higher price, but some seats in Pacific Elite class have been replaced by couches seating two people. Why? Not for the Elite people, no, no. These are SPECIFICALLY for DISABLED people, cripled people, persons relying on wheelchairs, etc. If you have a problem that makes it hard or impossible to have an economy seat, you will get a 50% cut on your ticket price. This gives disabled or cripled people who before could not fly a chance TO fly.

Standard Plus! is the next class. It has a biz class layout, seats the size of first class seats (21" wide), and ALOT of legroom. (31" pitch). These seats are on a first come-first serve basis and cost exactly the same as economy price tickets.

Standard is the third and final class. And it's name means exactly that. Seating in this area is the industry norm. 24" pitch and 17" wide seats. Now, you ask "Why not save discomfort and fly all standard plus!?" Well, I WAS going to do that. But thry all Standard Plus! on a 752, and you end up seating 137 people. That's not enough. So, Standard is what saves us losses. But, the main reason the fly in Standard over other airlines' Economy is out incredible service!
Service-
Possibly PTVs, great inflight entertainment. All hot meals, great snacks (including a Tropical Fruit Bowl! Yum Yum!), friendly flight attendants, etc. The BEST. And, even better, Pacific Elite is nearly the same as the other classes, the eact same service, they just have 23" wide seats! That's it! The only difference!
The wall between classes have been torn down!

So, how does THIS travel experiance sound to you?
I want to know all your thoughts, opinions, and questions.
Lemme know what you think about my operations, service seating, you name it!
And to go with this resturcturing, there will be a new website coming soon!!
       
DL 604

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User currently offlineUSAirways737 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1026 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 633 times:

Where did you find the price for the Airbus aircraft. I cant find them. Used Boeing 737's and 767's would be cheaper than new airbus'!

User currently offlineHypermike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 630 times:

Think about this for a minute. If you fly an A340, A321, and a B757. You have a lot different aircraft requiring different types of maintenance. This is very costly.

User currently offlineFlyVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1313 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (14 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 626 times:

According to the Boeing website, the standard pitch for their airlners is 31" for coach and 38" for first class for domestic planes and on international planes, coach is 32" and first is 60". So what you have down for your pitch is way off!! If it were 24", there would be no place for anyones legs! AA, DAL, UA, US all now post there seat width and pitch so you can get some ideas from that. So for your airline, I would suggest 34" pitch coach, and somewhere around 50" for your elite.


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