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Boeing 767-300 Emegency Exits Question...  
User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2399 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4018 times:
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Hi there !!

Can someone tell me why we can find 2 separate types of Boeing 767-300 as far as the emergency exits are concerned ???

- You have the type with 2 overwing exits above each wing.

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- You have the type with 4 identical exits on each side of the plane.

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I must say I am very confused about it !! Is there a difference in the year of production ??

Thanks for your help !!!

FB.


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User currently offlineN175dz From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2000, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

As far as I know - it's all down to customer preference and the density of seating. For instance, UK charter carriers have the four door lay-out, 'cause that way they can cram in more seats.

Hope this helps.
cheers, Phil


User currently offlineHias From Germany, joined Sep 2000, 349 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3951 times:

Hi there,

yes it depends on the costumer which layout he wants. AFAIK there are 3 different layouts:

2 passenger doors and 2 overwing exits
3 passenger doors and 1 overwing exit
4 passenger doors and no overwing exit


Hope that helps.

Regards

Mathias
www.spotter.de.vu
mathias.henig@gmx.de


User currently offlineRmm From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 525 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

There is also the "B" type escape doors. They are located just aft of the wing.


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Rmm


User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3906 times:

Rmm, that Qantas version you posted, isn't it just the same exit layout as the BA aircraft posted by Flying Belgian?? I can't find any difference.

User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

The 767-300 with 4 doors on each side (no overwings) actually had 3 passenger/service doors on each side and one "jet escape" on each side (aft of the wing). That door can only be opened in case of emergency. It is larger than an overwing exit but small that the other passenger doors. Some 757s have the exact same doors and layout.




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User currently offlineRmm From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 525 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3895 times:

Yep, the QF version is the same as the BA. It's just that the BA shot doesn't really show the door all that well. You can just see it thru the I/B flap.
The set up is known as the "B" type escape door.

Rmm


User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3852 times:

The QF aircraft that Rmm posted is actually ex-BA (check out the RR engines), so the doors will be identical. QF operates a number of 'two door' 767-300s as well, which were built specifically for them.

User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3839 times:


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Aeroflot has "B" type doors on their 767 as well. If you see the picture closely, the one not opened is the "B" type door.

r panda
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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4009 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3825 times:
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Yes, that is true.
It all depends which configuration the customer specifies when ordering a 767-300 from Boeing. Most major airlines choose the two-door overwing exit configuration. All of American's 767-300's have that configuration, like the picture Olivier (Flying Belgian) shows on his post. I think that Air France has opted for the other configuration. Yes, it depends on how many passengers versus how many flight attendants the airline wants. There is a galley everywhere there is an emergency door, where there are two doors over the wing, there is only one galley. So the choice must be either more seats and one less galley, or fewer seats and one more galley.
I don't know if that answers your question, Olivier.

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium



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User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2006 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

The Qantias 767 pictured is actually an ex-BA -336, leased to complement the Aussie carrier's 338s (which have 2 main exits and 2 overwing exits on each side).


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User currently offlineMikeymike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3778 times:

The correct terminology for Door Configuration is stipulated in FAR 25.807 amdt 25-46

Type A - rated for 110 pax - 42" x 72"
Type B - 75 pax
Tpye C - 55 pax
Type I - 45 pax - min opening 24" wide x 48" high
Type II - 40 pax - min opening 20" x 44"
Type III - 35 pax - min opening 20" x 36"
Type IV - 9 pax - min opening 19" x 26"
Ventral - same rate of egess as Type I
Tail Cone - - min opening 20" x 60"

* Pax rating is per pair of the type

for the 767
Config 1 is AAIA
Config 2 is AA3A
Config 3 is A33A

Just because you have 8 Type A exits doesn't necessarily mean you are allowed to have 440 pax on the aircraft.....

my head gets dizzy from trying to understand the regs.


User currently offlinePatches From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

I asked this same question 3 0r 4 months ago. I also asked why the 757 would'nt be configured the same as a 767. meaning the option for more or less loading doors. The 757 always has more loading doors than most 767-300's.The 757 only has one option, at least 3 loading doors on one side. Why? Thanks, Patches.

User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 700 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

To Patches,

The 757 often has more exits than the 767-300 because it is a single-aisle a/c and it thus takes longer for passengers to get to the exits. The 767 is a double-aisle aircraft, so passengers can get to the exits faster.



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