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User currently offlineFEDERICO From Belgium, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 962 times:

I recently found the web sites for Southern Winds and Dinar and been getting to know a little more about them.

I'd like any input on these airlines LAPA, Dinar, Southern Winds, LAER, is TAN still around?, Kaiken? never flown them...so I want feedback...not just cabin service, but overall service(s).

All I know about LAPA, Dinar, Southern Winds are - destinations, fleet, etc...some prices as well, you know... just the basic info you can get thru a web site.

I planning a major vacation this summer (July-Aug) and I want to try all airlines in Argentina (so if I missed any new(er) ones, fill me in) for a project I'm working on. Any valuable info appreciated...no severe bashing please.

Federico
Argentino in Seattle



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User currently offlineBacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 851 times:

Lapa is prley the best airline in argentina if u dont mind crashing. u forgot about aerolineas argentina but they will be bankrupt by the time u get down her. i flew on dinar once, the service was ok but the pilots almost missed the runway on landing, it was scary! we landed very hard and we were going very fast.
i want to fly on southern winds. they look like a nice airline. i even think they have a fairly new fleet. they even have regional jets!


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 862 times:

TAN? Kaiken? They sound familiar. I believe TAN is an airline from Neuquen, right? I know this because when I lived in Mendoza I know there was an airline called TAN, which served Mendoza-Neuquen; Mendoza-Chos Malal;
& maybe Mendoza-San Martin del Ande & Mendoza-Malargue...they flew quite often every day to Mendoza. I do not know if they are still in business, I could ask my uncle since he is here in Florida right now.
Derico



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User currently offlineFEDERICO From Belgium, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 850 times:

Derico
You are correct...
TAN - Transportes Aereos de Neuquen. I know they used to fly or fly Saab 340s and some Fairchild Metros and other small planes that's about it...

Kaiken don't know much but see here it is...


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and who the heck are these???


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this one scary...are they still flying?  


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And very interested in


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Federico
Argentino in Seattle


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 845 times:

AMERICAN FALCON? Who the heck are they? Ceartanly NOT from Argentina. Kaiken, I really do not remember them, but I did hear of them. Perhaps they are the ones with the daily Mendoza-Malargue flights...no, they are not it, that airline's name with that service was with initials...but I can't remember now. LAER? Stumped their too... I do know LADE, which is runned by the government & flies to the remote areas in Patagonia.

Hey, what is Southern Winds website? I have been looking forever for them. I know Dinar's, Lapa's, & AR, obviously. Alas Doradas? Don't know theirs.
Also, when I went to Argentina, there was this airline, Andesmar, which also runs a bus company. Did they go broke? I haven't heard anything from them. I think their home base was Mendoza.
Derico



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User currently offlineFEDERICO From Belgium, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 840 times:

LAER- Lineas Aereas de Entre Rios

AndesMar I remember them too, don't know what happenned to it.

American Falcon- Aero Gaucho? It is from ARG...pic taken at EZE.

Alas Doradas? Them I never heard of.

and here...it's a pretty nice site
http://www.sw.com.ar/

Federico
Argentino in Seattle


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 836 times:

Hey,
I'm checking the SW site right now. Thanks. It look simple & sleek.
If the pick was taken in EZE of American Falcon, maybe they are from Brazil, Uruguay, or some other country. They have never been mentioned in any airline article from Argentina.
I wonder if any other provinces have their own airlines, like Neuquen & Entre Rios.
Alas Doradas: All I know is they exist. And that they have started service between Mendoza-San Rafael & San Rafael-Buenos Aires, because San Rafael has become a new tourist destination.



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User currently offlineFEDERICO From Belgium, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 835 times:

I pretty sure American Falcon is from Argentina the registration of the plane is LV.

Alas Doradas - really? I'd like to know what they fly?

Federico
Argentino in Seattle


User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 837 times:

Another interesting airline is LAER-Lineas Aereas de Entre Rios. Their service is very good and you could either fly Jetstreams or ATR42. Their base is in Parana but they regularly serve other cities like Goya, Reconquista, Concordia, Venado Tuerto, etc, and even others like Tandil, Necochea, Coronel Suarez, Gral Pico and Colonia (Uruguay). The airline is owned by the province; there were intensions to privatize three years ago but failed. The airline is very well managed by a woman (an accountant, I don´t remember her name) who changed the image, expanded the route network and made arrangements for the arrival of the ATR´s.

American Falcon: is a charter airline that operates a single F28. They also contract Lade´s B707; their typical clients are package tours, football teams, multinationals, etc. Last November they started regular services from Ezeiza airport to cities like Mar del Plata, Rosario, Cordoba, Bahia Blanca and Comodoro Rivadavia. They code is WK, and in Ezeiza the check in is in Aerolineas Argentinas terminal by the Cubana and Iberia counters.

Southern Winds: I haven´t flown but been told that their service is very good, also very competitive fares and reach many important cities. Friends told me they have the most beautiful flight attendants in comparison to all other companies.

TAN-Neuquen: is owned by Vasp. They fly Saab 340 and Metro´s to cities in Patagonia, Mendoza and Chile (Temuco and Puerto Montt).


User currently offlineFlying-tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4160 posts, RR: 36
Reply 9, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 832 times:

May you please tell me how many Saab S340 TAN operates? Are these As or Bs? And the same for LAER please?

Regards
Flying-Tiger
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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 827 times:

Flying-Tiger:
Sorry that I do not have the info you are looking for right now. I will try to find it, though it won't be easy. But maybe the other guys now the answers.

Lima:
American Falcon is not a very Argentine name, I'm sorry.
But anyways, what do you mean by regular service?
Regular charters, or regular flights that you can make reservations on? Im stating to think that some of these routes are getting somewhat crowded with so many airlines...

Federico:
I don't know what Alas Doradas fly either. But I would think they fly regional jets. Thanks again for the SW site. It was nice.

Bacardi182:
Did you land safely yet?  

Derico



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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 821 times:

Hi, Flying-Tiger:
I found some information you were looking for, thanks to FEDERICO, who E-mailed me the web sites for both airlines. I did not even know they had sites online!!

TAN: They own just two (2) Saab SF340.
Now, I'm not too technical on aircraft, so I don't exactly know what you mean by A's or B's. The only thing I can guess is that you are reffering to the engines. The engines for both are this:
GE CT7-5A2 (I hope that is what you were looking for)
If not, just go to their web page. It is in Spanish, but simply press on the FLOTA button, & there you will find all the specifications of their entire fleet, & you probably do not need to know any Spanish to understand it.
http://www.tan.com.ar

LAER does not have any Saab's of any kind.
They operate three (3) British Jetstreams, one (1) ATR 42-300, & one (1) ATR 42-320.
Their site is:
http://www.laer.com.ar
Hope this helps...
Derico



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User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 817 times:

There is another new airline operating in Patagonia whose name is quite strange but it is from Argentina:

American Jet: it is a air taxi company that now has regular services from its base in Neuquen. They fly a Dornier 228-200 to the following cities: Rincon de los Sauces, Chos Malal, Copahue (a site of an important thermal baths) and Chapelco (an important ski resort in Neuquen also near San Martin de los Andes).

Derico: did you check the web site of the company managing the Argentinian airports - Aeropuertos Argentina 2000 (www.aa2000.com.ar)?


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 811 times:

All of these airlines base in Neuquen? I say go Neuquen go!
Also, I did not know of Aeropuertos 2000's web site either...gee, all of the things I have been missing for all this time.

I can accept Southern Winds, even if it is an English name...but American Falcon?? American JET??

You know what, actually, I will now be starting my OWN airline in Argentina. Ill fly down there with lots of $$,
& create my brand new airline. It will be based in the capital of Argentine flolcloric music, Cosquin, and it will have a VERY ORIGINAL Argentine name.
From "Aqui Cosquin!!! comes......REDNECK GAUCHOS AIRLINES!! or RGA for short.
I think that is very Argentine, don't you think?? (  )
Derico



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User currently offlineFEDERICO From Belgium, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 810 times:

Derico-

Funny you should say that about starting your own airline...that's why I wanted to know about all the arilines and their services...funny because that is what my project is...my father and I are working on starting one in a couple of years...if everything works out of course you know the government if we get the rights and if we get the deal on the aircraft I want.

Any other suggestions as far as names...RGA just doesn't do it for me... 
I got some names in my mind so does my father...but...it's so early in the game we are about to start playing

Federico
Argentino in Seattle


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 804 times:

REALLY???????????????????????????????????????????????
You & your father are want to start an airline??
I see all these people that are saying they will start one, either it is not as EXPENSIVE ($$$) as I thought, or some of you guys have nice dough.
Let me ask you, what exactly are your plans?
Like base of operations, service, fleet, & how much do you need to start an airline?

As for a name, I have always envisioned a massive Argentine airline cruising around the world called...
Cono Sur. I like that name, it fits Argentina's geographic position perfectly.
Derico



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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 797 times:

Is the moon still intact up there?...were did the forum go???...it is dead right now.
Derico




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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4292 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (14 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 793 times:

Come on, can't you just make a tiny reply?? You have been telling me to answer your post here, I DID THIS MORNING!! Tell me if you did, OK?
Derico



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