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User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4487 times:

Here's an interesting article about the new threat to LH/BA/... . I read it in today "Welt am Sonntag" a well know German newspaper.
Sorry it's only in German but if someone has some spare time maybe he could translate it a little.
I personally love the irony and the sarcasm in this article.

It tells us about how cheap but unconvenient Ryanair is and that a businessman who didn't know that Frankfurt-Hahn was not FRankfurt got really pissed at the airport.





Busfahren über den Wolken

Weder Service noch Glamour, dafür Tickets zum Schnäppchenpreis: Billig-Airlines sind im Kommen. Ein Testflug mit drei Fluggesellschaften

Von Sönke Krüger

Sie kennen Buzz nicht? Und haben noch nichts gehört von Easyjet und Ryanair? Geschweige denn von Virgin Express und Go? Sollten Sie aber. Denn diese Fluggesellschaften aus der Gattung der Billigflieger sind massiv im Kommen. Glaubt man deren Propaganda, befördern sie bald mehr Fluggäste als Lufthansa oder Air France.

Ganz von der Hand zu weisen sind die hoch gesteckten Ziele nicht: Anders als herkömmliche Airlines verzeichnen die Billiglinien nämlich steigende Passagierzahlen und Gewinne. Und statt Strecken zu streichen, machen sie munter neue auf. Die irische Ryanair startet zum Beispiel zwischen Februar und Juni europaweit 15 neue Verbindungen, darunter sieben ab Deutschland (siehe Kasten).

Aber wie sieht es aus an Bord eines Billigfliegers? Muss man mit wackeligem Gestühl, rüpelhaften Sitznachbarn, klapprigen Uralt- Maschinen rechnen? Im Englischen heißt diese Art von Fluggesellschaften schließlich "No Frills Carrier" - Flieger ohne Schnickschnack. Ich habe die Probe aufs Exempel gemacht und bin an einem Tag mit drei verschiedenen Airlines im Dreieck geflogen: mit Buzz von Berlin nach London, mit Ryanair von London nach Hahn bei Frankfurt, mit Germania von Frankfurt nach Berlin. Um es vorwegzunehmen: Es gab keine Katastrophen unterwegs. Und keine Zeitungen, keine Nüsschen, keine Gratis- Semmeln, keine Lounge, keine Vielfliegermeilen.

Erste Etappe: Mit Buzz, der Billigtochter von KLM uk, von Berlin nach London. Allerdings nicht von Tegel und nicht nach Heathrow, sondern von Schönefeld (Provinz) nach Stansted (Provinz) - das spart Airportgebühren und macht das Ticket billiger (ab 59 Euro pro Strecke). Der Preis ist auch deshalb so niedrig, weil Buzz Flugscheine nur via Internet und Telefon verkauft, das spart Reisebüro-Provisionen. Und statt eines Tickets - das spart Papier - bekommt man einen Buchungscode. Mit dem und einem Ausweis erhält man dann beim Check-in seine Bordkarte.

An Bord der Maschine, einer quietschgelben, gut zehn Jahre alten British Aerospace 146, geht es weitgehend zu wie bei jedem anderen Flug auch: Drei Stewardessen in Miniröcken sind für die maximal 110 Passagiere zuständig, unter dem Sitz klemmt eine Schwimmweste, es gibt eine mit dem Airline-Logo bedruckte Spucktüte und nummerierte Sitzplätze. Viel Platz hat man allerdings nicht: Der Sitzabstand beträgt 79 Zentimeter, deutlich enger als bei Lufthansa (86 Zentimeter).

Und es gibt weder Zeitungen noch eine Mahlzeit umsonst. Dafür aber Bordservice gegen Bargeld: Ich ordere eine genießbare Hähnchenbrusttortilla und einen frisch im Mini-Kännchen gebrühten Kaffee für zusammen 7,40 Euro. Mit mir sind rund 60 Gäste an Bord, viel junges Volk zwischen 20 und 30, aber auch eine Hand voll Krawattenträger. Zehn Minuten früher als geplant landen wir in Stansted.

Zweite Etappe: Um 12.31 Uhr, nach zwei Stunden Wartezeit in der gepflegten Langeweile von London- Stansted, beginnt endlich das Boarding. Anders als bei Buzz werden die Passagiere nicht per Bus zum Flieger gekarrt, Ryanair lässt zu Fuß zum Flugzeug marschieren. Das spart Geld. Nummerierte Sitzplätze? Fehlanzeige. Die freie Platzwahl führt beim Einsteigen zu einem Gerangel um die Plätze in den ersten Reihen. Um 12.43 Uhr sitzen die letzten, um 12.47 Uhr fährt die Stewardess die im Flugzeug eingebaute Treppe per Knopfdruck ein (das spart Airport-Gebühren) und schließt die Tür. Eine Minute später rollen wir los, um 12.56 Uhr hebt die fast voll besetzte Boeing 737-800 ab.

Bei Ryanair wird noch konsequenter als bei Buzz gespart. Der Spuckbeutel ist weiß und unbedruckt, die Duty-free-Verkaufsliste wird auf Nachfrage ausgeteilt und später wieder eingesammelt, die Sitzreihen sind eng wie in einem Linienbus (74 Zentimeter Abstand), im Waschraum ist sogar der Seifenspender leer. Immerhin ist das Toilettenpapier zweilagig. Essen gibt es nur gegen Cash: Ich bestelle ein Käse-Tomaten-Baguette für 6,40 Euro und bekomme etwas Wabbeliges in die Hand gedrückt, das laut Aufkleber die Zusatzstoffe E 160, E 202, E 282, E 300, E 385, E 412, E 415 und E 481 enthält. So schmeckt es auch. Dafür hat mein Internet-Ticket nur 19,77 Euro (oneway, gebucht Anfang Januar) gekostet.

Auch dieser Flug ist überpünktlich: Wir landen um 14.47 Uhr auf jenem Flughafen, den Ryanair als Frankfurt Hahn vermarktet. Tatsächlich liegt Hahn, früher ein Fliegerhorst der US-Armee, mitten im Hunsrück. Eine Bahnverbindung ins 130 Kilometer entfernte Frankfurt gibt es nicht. Dafür aber einen Bus, der im Auftrag von Ryanair zum Frankfurter Flughafen und weiter in die Innenstadt fährt.

Leider erst um 16.30 Uhr. Ein Londoner Geschäftsmann, der erst jetzt realisiert, dass Frankfurt Hahn nicht Frankfurt ist, sondern abgelegenste Provinz, bekommt an der Flughafeninformation einen Wutanfall, was die Dame dort mit einem Achselzucken quittiert und dem Hinweis auf den Linienbus 3480, der um 15.08 Uhr abfährt.

Der Anzugträger und ich nehmen diesen Bus. Für 9,45 Euro schaukelt er uns in 90 Minuten durch Wiesen und Wälder zum Hauptbahnhof in Bingen am Rhein. Unterwegs halten wir in lieblichen Orten wie Büchenbeuren, Riesweiler und Rheinböllen. Zum Glück kommen wir pünktlich an, denn um 16.48 Uhr fährt bereits der Interregio ab, den wir bis Mainz benutzen (7 Euro). Dort haben wir sechs Minuten zum Umsteigen in den Regionalexpress (3,10 Euro) zum Frankfurter Flughafen, den wir um 17.35 Uhr erreichen, genau zwei Stunden und 48 Minuten nach unserer Landung. Der Transfer von Hahn zum Frankfurter Flughafen ist mit 19,55 Euro fast genauso teuer wie der Flug von London nach Hahn.

Letzte Etappe: Mit Germania nach Berlin-Tegel - also von Großflughafen zu Großflughafen. Was für eine Wohltat. Die Boeing 737-700 ist fast neu und fast voll, acht von zehn Fluggästen dürften Geschäftsleute sein. Anders als bei Ryanair muss man bei Germania nicht über das Rollfeld zum Flieger laufen, sondern steigt direkt vom Flugsteig ein. An Bord das gleiche Schmalspurprogramm: keine Zeitungen, kein Erfrischungstuch, keine Vielfliegermeilen, enge Sitzreihen (76 Zentimeter Sitzabstand), kein Bordservice, auch nicht gegen Bares. Die Stewardess begründet das mit der kurzen Flugzeit - bei Lufthansa gibt es auf derselben Strecke in derselben Flugzeit immerhin ein Getränk.

Doch nicht die Erfrischung macht den Unterschied, sondern der Preis. Germania nimmt pro Kopf und Strecke einheitlich 99 Euro. Lufthansa bietet auf dieser Route einen Oneway-Sondertarif von derzeit 105 Euro an - interessanterweise erst seit November, seit Germania vom Main an die Spree fliegt. Der Schnäppchenpreis gilt allerdings nur auf wenigen Plätzen, für das Vollzahler- Economy-Ticket kassiert Lufthansa 488 Euro (hin und zurück), also mehr als doppelt so viel. Zum Vergleich: Der ICE-Sprinter braucht drei Stunden 29 Minuten und kostet 106,40 Euro.

Trotzdem bietet Germania nicht die billigste Verbindung zwischen Berlin und Frankfurt. Wer oben gut aufgepasst hat, der weiß, dass es mit Buzz, Ryanair, Linienbus und DB über Stansted, Hahn, Bingen und Mainz noch günstiger ist: Diese Verbindung dauert zwar sechseinhalb Stunden länger, kostet aber 68 Cent weniger.

Welt am Sonntag, 10.02.2002


Note: The last paragraph is really cool.



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4286 times:

nice article, thanks !

Maybe i'll try Germania next time to Berlin  Big grin


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

You're welcome !
Or you might consider the run via Stansted.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineAvion From Bouvet Island, joined May 1999, 2205 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4211 times:

Hey Santos u on ICQ?

Tom


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

The last paragraph really is cool.

But I noted one thing with dismay: They are not entirely objective. They compare Germania more favourably (by noting how that airline flies only from major airports, and by emphasizing how NEW the plane is, while not remarking about the same-age Ryanair 738, and overemphasizing the age of the 10-year-old Buzz machine), neglecting to mention that Buzz also flies to FRA and more central airports, except London, where Stansted is the 5th big airport of a big city...

It is entertaining. But not 100% objective. Also, it is based on only 3 flights....

PS: How would the last paragraph read if the author had chosen Ryanair's bus instead of the bus-Bundesbahn route? Wouldn't it be noticeably cheaper (while also lasting noticeably longer)?

Regards

Ikarus



User currently offlinePatroni From Luxembourg, joined Aug 1999, 1403 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4152 times:

Nice article!

So far I only flew on Germania (Cologne-Berlin every week for 6 months in 1999) and Virgin Express from Berlin SXF to Brussels, Stansted and Rome and never had a problem with the service (or lack thereof). I really don't care about getting a sandwich or not on a 2 hours flight, and speaking about the seat pitch, I recently had a 2.5h flight Zürich-Lixbon on a Qualiflyer airline (TAP Air Portugal) where I could not sit straight in my seat due to the high density seating configuration - My knees didn't fit anymore between my seat and the seat in front of me...

In a few weeks I will try Ryanair for the first time. I live in a city close to Luxembourg, but also only 45min by car from Hahn, so that I couldn't care less how far HHN is from FRA - I rather prefer driving 45min to HHN to catch a cheap flight rather than travelling 2h to FRA to get onboard an expensive "major airline" trip.

With the start of their new hub in HHN, they offer some amazingly cheap prices : For example on 16.March I will participate in the BAC 1-11 farewell flight out of Bournemouth/UK. Well, I was positively surprised to see that Ryanair is just about to open a route Hahn-Bournemouth and I could already secure a seat on these flights for only 30.13 Euro return, including taxes! This is even cheaper than a nonrev ticket on Luxair to LHR or STN...

I am aware that the prices which Ryanair currently charges are just used as a market opener, but even on the established routes like Hahn-Stansted or Hahn-Prestwick, they are still pretty low.... So I am now absolutely curious to see how this experience will be.

Best regards,

Tom


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

My German friend has translated the article.....I have to say, you are pretty stupid if you don't know where you are going...it's not difficult to find out, and clearly spelt out on the FR website.

However, if I was in his shoes, I would probably avoid Ryanair like the plague, for the simple fact that they don't fly close to where company offices are likely to be located....but since the only office job I'm ever likely to have is in the air (*hint*, subtle 'hint') or on the ground as airline manager (probably failed...), then I couldn't care less!  Laugh out loud

BTW, who says Lufty are bad, I was upgraded to Biz class to Tokyo last year! Very comfortable and attentive service over Siberia...you guys are too harsh.

Hey, Ikarus, concurrent with the presumption that you do not like email contact with fellow aviation enthusiasts, may I direct you to a friend's website, and a website of my own liking? (Since you seem to be a creature of letters?)

Here you go my friend;

My friend who resides in Italy, and shuns his German links....

http://www.iolfree.ie/~alexandros/

A place I like to hang out...

http://www.aldaily.com

Enjoy

'The well-bred contradict others, the wise contradict themselves'........


User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2363 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4108 times:
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"Welt am Sonntag"
That's a pseudo intellectual Newspaper here in germany. We say "die FAZ für Bild Leser". Roughly translated it means something like "The London Times for Mirror (or Sun) readers".

That reflects in the way they write there articels, it's just a "low level" newspaper for many germans.

Mario
LH526



Trittst im Morgenrot daher, seh ich dich im Strahlenmeer ...
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4074 times:

LH526, they have improved a bit in the last years, but they are still not on the level of the Süddeutsche, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung or Frankfurt Rundschau.

They are still a product of Axel Springer, so they can't be really good  Smile

(off topic, but i'm still asking myself who are the 5 million people buying a bild everyday..)


User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4071 times:

Germans, as the rest of Europe and the US already do, will soon vote with their wallets. Despite Germany's resistance to change....try shopping on Sunday's and afterwork....the no frills airlines will do well. It's the entrenched cozy relationships between the establishment press (Die Welt included), big business and the government that have to be overcome. Soenke Kruger's arrogance is typical of the German elite, but the working class and youth of Germany will flock to the Go, Buzz, Ryanair, Easyjet and other alternatives. Would the price have been only 68 cents weniger had the new airlines not entered the market? Lufthansa is cutting its fares to stay competitive. I love the free market!?

User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

Still the bashing of Ryanair continues, eh?

If you prefer to fly with Lufti, by all means do so. For SOME people Ryanair offers a worthwhile trade-off...a less accessible airport and no service on board in exchange for rock-bottom fares. Like Bicoastal said, people will vote with their wallets every time.


User currently offlineHerbman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

>>>"Welt am Sonntag"
That's a pseudo intellectual Newspaper here in germany. We say "die FAZ für Bild Leser". <<< Big grin

That`s true LH526. The "Springer" press is very unlikely.

Regards

Sebastian


User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 867 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Nice article!  Wink/being sarcastic

Helau from Duesseldorf!


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

I know, we get off topic but I must agree with LH526 and Racko. Axel Springer newspapers are the worst here in Germany.

Racko, I also asking myself who are that 5 million people daily.

My favorite daily German newspaper is: Sueddeutsche Zeitung

Patrick


User currently offlineNfx From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

try the NZZ - although it`s not german but swiss it offers a great "all around the world"-view.

btw - i don`t think it`s off topic!!



User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3995 times:

Thanks for the tip, Nfx !

Sometimes I watch NZZ Magazine on Vox TV, not bad. I will try the newspaper.

Patrick


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

My favorite is the Frankfurter Rundschau, but i also like the FAZ. While the FR is a bit more modern, the FAZ is a bit more conservatie. So if you read both, you have two point of views  Big grin

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3948 times:

ANYONE have a translation??????????????

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Here is Altavista's translation skills!  Laugh out loud

'Bus-drive over the clouds

Neither service nor Glamour, for it tickets at the good deal price:
Cheap airlines are in coming. A test flight with three airlines

Of Soenke Krueger

They do not know Buzz? And have still nothing belonged from Easyjet
and Ryanair? Let alone of Virgin express and Go? You should however.
Because these airlines from the kind of the cheap fliers are
substantial in coming. If one believes their propaganda, they carry
soon more aircraft passengers than Lufthansa or Air France.

Completely from the hand to point are not the highly put targets:
Differently than conventional airlines the cheap lines register rising
passenger numbers and gains. And instead of deleting distances, they
open lively new. The Irish Ryanair starts European-wide 15 new
connections for example between February and June, among them sieve
starting from Germany (see box).

But how it sees out on board a cheap flier? Does one have to count
ruepelhaften seat neighbor, klapprigen age-old machines on wobbly
Gestuehl? In English this type of airlines is called finally " NO
Frills carrier " - fliers without Schnickschnack. I made and on one
day with three different airlines in the triangle flew the sample on
the example: with Buzz from Berlin to London, with Ryanair from
London to cock with Frankfurt, with Germania from Frankfurt to Berlin.
In order to anticipate it: There were no disasters on the way. And
no newspapers, no Nues, no free rolls, no Lounge, no many flier miles.


First stage: With Buzz, the cheap daughter of KLM uk, from Berlin to
London. However not of Tegel and not after Heathrow, but of beautiful
field (province) after Stansted (province) - and makes cheaper the
ticket saves air port fees (starting from 59 euro per distance). The
price is also so low, because Buzz sells flugscheine only via Internet
and telephone, saves travel agency commissions. And instead of a
ticket - paper saves - one gets a reservation code. With that and a
document of identification one receives then with CHECK in its
on-board card.

On board the machine, it happens to a quietschgelben, well ten years
old British Aerospace 146 to a large extent as also with every other
flight: Three hostesses in mini skirts are responsible for those max.
110 passengers, under the seat wedge a life jacket, it give one with
the airline Logo printed spitting bag and nummerierte seats. One does
not have much workstation however: The seat distance amounts to 79
centimeters, clearly more closely than at Lufthansa (86 centimeters).


And there is neither newspapers still another meal in vain. But
however on-board service against cash: I order a enjoyable
Haehnchenbrusttortilla and a coffee for together 7.40 euro, freshly
gebruehten in the mini burette. With me approximately 60 guests are
on board, much young people between 20 and 30, in addition, a hand
full tie carriers. Ten minutes in former times as planned we land in
Stansted.

Second stage: At 12.31 o'clock, after two hours of waiting period in
the maintained boredom of London Stansted, begins finally the
Boarding. Differently than with Buzz the passengers are gekarrt not
by bus to the flier, let Ryanair march to foot to the airplane. That
saves cash. Nummerierte of seats? Nil return. The free workstation
space leads when entering to a wrangling around the workstations in
the first series. At 12.43 o'clock sits the latter, at 12.47 o'clock
brings the hostess in the stairs built in the airplane by push of a
button (saves air port fees) and closes the door. One minute later
floating roll we, at 12.56 o'clock takes off the almost fully filled
Boeing 737-800.

With Ryanair still more consistently than with Buzz one saves. The
spitting bag is white and blank, the Duty free list of sales on demand
is output-divided and again in-collected, the seat rows later is
closely as in a regular bus (74 centimeters distance), in the wash
room is even the liquid soap dispenser empty. The toilettenpapier is
two-part nevertheless. Meal gives it only against cash: I order a
cheese tomato Baguette for 6........'



Mmmmm, ok!

Regards


User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3934 times:

I seem to have lost half the article-anyone care to continue this hilarious translation? I love the 'schickshnack' (or whatever) bit!! You Germans are just soooo comical!  Big thumbs up

Regards


User currently offlineHoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3907 times:

Wow 2-ply toilet paper on Ryanair!!! Sold!

User currently offlineKing penguin From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

to the face that translation a smile brings...  Laugh out loud

by all means, someone, let's have the rest; it's quite poetical, actually.

and just how do they maintain boredom at stansted?

cheers,

kp


User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3869 times:


Hey glad you all like the article so much ! That's why I wanted to share it with you.

For those of you who said that die Welt am Sonntag is a popular magazine, oh well I don't really know.
I only have it for 13 issues because it gave me 2000 Lufthansa Miles. hehe.
My normal daily lecture is the STUTTGARTER ZEITUNG.

@ Racko : lol, for the 5 million Bild readers. hehe.

@ Hoffa : I was not bringing this up to bash FR in any means or because I'm a LH lover, but because I thought the article was simply cool.

@ Bicoastal : I agree in the end it's of course the money that wins, but I still don't see the point why some people really take a trip that lasts hours just to save 5 € or whatever in the end. That's why I like the sarcasm in this article.


User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3860 times:

Busfahren over the clouds Neither service nor Glamour, for that Tickets to the Schnäppchenpreis: Billig-airlines are in the coming. A test flight with three airlines Of bartender would sink Don't you know Buzz? Did and belong of Easyjet and Ryanair to yet nothing? Let alone of Virgin express and Go? Should however. For these airlines out of the species of the cheap flyers are massive in the coming. One believes its propaganda, they will convey soon more Fluggäste than a Lufthansa or Air France. To show entire of the hand the highly stuck goals are not: unlike a conventional airline, the cheap lines indicate namely increasing passenger number and profits. And instead of painting stretches, open it lively new. The irische Ryanair starts Europe expanse 15 new connections, under that seven from Germany (see box) for example between February and June. Does but how it see out of on board of a cheap flyer? Must one reckon with shaky Gestühl, coarse seat neighbor, klapprigen age old machines? In the English, this type of airline is named finally "No Frills Carrier" - flyer without Schnickschnack. I made the sample on the example and flew at a day with three different airline in the triangle: with Buzz from Berlin to London, with Ryanair from London to rooster in Frankfurt, with Germania from Frankfurt to Berlin. To anticipate around it: there were no catastrophies underway. And no newspapers, no Nüsschen, no roll free, no Lounge, no Vielfliegermeilen. First stage: with Buzz, the cheap daughter of KLM uk, from Berlin to London. To be sure of Tegel and not after Heathrow, but rather of pretty field (province) after Stansted (province) - that Airportgebühren does not save and makes the Ticket approier (from 59 Euro per stretch). The price is saves also therefore so low because Buzz flight certificate only via internet sells and telephone, that travel agency-provision. And instead of a Tickets - that saves paper - one gets an entry code. With that and one, one receives expel then in the Check-into its board card. On board of the machine, a quietschgelben, well ten year old British Aerospace 146, it goes extensively to like in each other flight also: three stewardesses in minus skirts are for the maximal 110 passengers responsible, under the seat pinches one swim vest, it gives one with the airline-Logo imprinted and number type of seats to spit paper bag. Much place does not have one to be sure: the seat interval amounts to 79 centimeters, clearly narrower than in Lufthansa (86 centimeters). And there are neither newspapers nor a meal for nothing. For that however board service against cash: I order an enjoyable Hähnchenbrusttortilla and one freshly in the minus-pot gebrühten coffee for together 7,40 Euro. With me are round 60 Gäste on board, much young people between 20 and 30, but also a hand fully necktie carrier. Ten minutes earlier than we land planned in Stansted. Second stage: around 12.31 clock, after two hours wait in the cultivated boredom of London Stansted, begins finally the Boarding. Unlike in Buzz the passengers will not let march per bus to the flyer gekarrt, Ryanair to foot to the airplane. That saves money. Number type of seats? Fehlanzeige. The free place choice leads in the getting into to a Gerangel around the places in the first rows. Around 12.43 clock, the last sit goes, around 12.47 clock the stewardess the stairway incorporated in the airplane per button pressure a (that saves Airport-fees) and closes the door. We later roll lifts a minute loose, around 12.56 clock the almost fully occupied Boeing 737-800 off. In Ryanair becomes yet more consistently than in Buzz saved. The spit bag is is distributed white and unbedruckt, that Duty-free-sale list on demand and gathered later again, the seat row are is narrow like in a Linienbus (74 centimeter interval), in the washroom even the soaps donors empty. Nevertheless the toilets paper zweilagig is. It gives eat only against Cash: I order a cheese-tomato-Baguette for 6,40 Euro and get pressed something Wabbeliges into the hand, that according to sticker the addition materials E 160, E 202, E 282, E 300, E 385, E 412, E 415 and E 481 contains. So it tastes also. For that my internet-Ticket cost only 19,77 Euro (oneway, book beginning of January). Also this flight is überpünktlich: we land around 14.47 clock on that airport, the Ryanair as a Frankfurt rooster vermarktet. Actually rooster lies, earlier a Fliegerhorst of the US-army, middle in the Hunsrück. A train connection into the 130 kilometer there is did not remove to Frankfurt. For that however a bus that goes on behalf of Ryanair to the Frankfurter airport and further into the inner cities. Unfortunately first around 16.30 clock. A Londoner businessman who realizes first now that Frankfurt rooster Frankfurt is not, but rather most remote provinces, gets at the airport information a tantrum, what the lady receipts there with a shoulder point, and the reference to the Linienbus 3480, that departs around 15.08 clock. The suit carrier and I take this bus. For schaukelt 9,45 Euro it us through meadows and forests to the central station in Bingen in 90 minutes at the Rhine. Underway we hold in lovely places as well as Büchenbeuren, Riesweiler and Rheinböllen. To the good fortune, we arrive punctually, for around 16.48 clock, already the Interregio departs, that we use until Mainz (7 Euro). There we have six minutes for changing into the regional express (3,10 Euro) to the Frankfurter airport, that we reach around 17.35 clock exactly two hours and 48 minutes after our landing. The transfer of rooster to the Frankfurter airport is with 19,55 Euro almost just as expensive like the flight from London to rooster. Last stage: with Germania to Berlin-Tegel - therefore from large airport to large airport. What for a good. The Boeing 737-700 is would be allowed to be almost new and almost full, eight of ten Fluggästen businessmen. Unlike in Ryanair one doesn't have to run in Germania over the roll field to the flyer, but rather gets into directly of the gate. On board the same narrow trace program: no newspapers, no refreshment cloth, no Vielfliegermeilen, narrow seat row (76 centimeter seat intervals), no board service, also not against Bares. The stewardess established that with the short flight time - in Lufthansa it gives a drink on the same stretch in the same flight time nevertheless. Yet the refreshment does not make the difference, but rather the price. Germania takes per head and stretch uniformly 99 Euro. Lufthansa has offered an Oneway-Sondertarif on this route of presently 105 Euro at - interestingly enough first for November since Germania of the Main flies at the Spree. The Schnäppchenpreis applies collects to be sure only on few places, to the Vollzahler- Economy-Ticket Lufthansa 488 Euro (there and back), therefore more than twice as much. To the comparison: the ICE-Sprinter three hours 29 minutes needs and costs 106,40 Euro. Nevertheless Germania does not offer the cheapest connection between Berlin and Frankfurt. He who paid attention above well, that knows that it is yet more favorably with Buzz, Ryanair, Linienbus and DB over Stansted, rooster, Bingen and Mainz: this connection lasts to be sure for six and a half hours, costs however 68 cents fewer.




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Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

9V......naughty, naughty.....no paragraphs!! (As my teacher would say..).

Thanks!


25 B737-700 : and what a fun translation. hehe
26 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : Note how they translate Hahn: "rooster" in the second translation, "cock" (!!!) in the first one - hilarious! Poor Soenke Krueger - I guess he got bet
27 Post contains links 9V-SVE : Sorry, but the translation came out without paragraphs. I used http://www.freetranslation.com
28 Post contains images Godbless : Hey Airsicknessbag, Herbman and Sabena332, I guess I just got a good idea for our next trip after we flew to LHR! Max
29 B737-700 : lol, are you guys having a meeting in London ?
30 SQ325 : 110 seats in a BAE146! Wow what should you do if you have more than 190cm? buy 2 tickets? regards Bjoern
31 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : We´re planning to take advantage of Air Namibia´s 181 EUR fare FRA-LHR - fly up there in the early morning, return the same evening; nice fare for a
32 Post contains images Patroni : @Daniel/Airsicknessbag : Might be not as exotic as an Air Namibia 744, but Ryanair is currently selling their tickets from Hahn to Bergamo for 50cents
33 B737-700 : Hey great deals you both have there. So the Air Namibia flight still exist, cool ! Is in only Saturdays or also other weekdays ? Oh well, but since I
34 Post contains images Capt.Picard : Airsickness, I want photos of the African 744, plus interviews with the pilots! Good luck, and enjoy! LHR is very busy, you'll see loads of stuff, I'm
35 Eg777er : So, Ryanair starting services to Frankfurt-Cock Airport - or should that be Frankfurt-Rooster? Gotta love BabelFish!!!
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