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Not All Delta 767-300s Go To Europe?  
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 21
Posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3507 times:

I think N---DZ regsitered Delta planes don't seem Trans-Atlantic runs.Do they only do domestic runs due to a different configuration?Thanks,Alex

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User currently offlineAfitch7881 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 815 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

If I am correct, I think the regular 767-300's have a domestic configuation with only a 2 class layout and all of the 767-300ER's are ment for International service os they will have a 3 class layout. I could be wrong.

767's are common with Delta on many domestic routes out of ATL, CVG, and JFK.

ATL-JFK
ATL-LGA
ATL-FLL
ATL-PBI
ATL-JAX
ATL-TPA
ATL-MIA
ATL-RSW
ATL-MSY
ATL-BOS
ATL-BDL
ATL-LAX
ATL-SFO
ATL-SEA

JFK-PHX-SAN
CVG-BDL
CVG-ATL

I know there is a lot left out but without looking thats what I can come up with.


Eric



User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

i really wouldn't know, but judging how Delta uses their 767s on a ton of domestic flights, I am sure a lot of them only operate trans-atlantics as a sub if another 767 is having mechanical problems or is delayed etc.

blink



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User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

N116DL B.767-332 23275
N117DL B.767-332 23276
N118DL B.767-332 23277
N119DL B.767-332 23278
N1200K B.767-332(ER) 28457
N1201P B.767-332(ER) 28458
N120DL B.767-332 23279
N121DE B.767-332 23435
N122DL B.767-332 23436
N123DN B.767-332 23437
N124DE B.767-332 23438
N125DL B.767-332 24075
N126DL B.767-332 24076
N127DL B.767-332 24077
N128DL B.767-332 24078
N129DL B.767-332 24079
N130DL B.767-332 24080
N131DN B.767-332 24852
N132DN B.767-332 24981
N133DN B.767-332 24982
N134DL B.767-332 25123
N135DL B.767-332 25145
N136DL B.767-332 25146
N137DL B.767-332 25306
N138DL B.767-332 25409
N139DL B.767-332 25984
N1402A B.767-332 25989
N140LL B.767-332 25988
N143DA B.767-332 25991
N143DA B.767-332 25992 nnb
N144DA B.767-332 25993 nnb
N144DA B.767-332 27584
N1501P B.767-3P6(ER) 24983 ex A4O-GL
N152DL B.767-3P6(ER) 24984 ex A4O-GM
N153DL B.767-3P6(ER) 24985 ex A4O-GN
N154DL B.767-3P6(ER) 25241 ex A4O-GO
N155DL B.767-3P6(ER) 25269 ex A4O-GP
N156DL B.767-3P6(ER) 25354 ex A4O-GR
N157DL B.767-3P6(ER) ex Gulf Air ntu
N158DL B.767-3P6(ER) ex Gulf Air ntu
N159DL B.767-3P6(ER) ex Gulf Air ntu
N1602 B.767-332(ER) 29694 ntu N175DZ
N1603 B.767-332(ER) 29695 ntu N176DZ
N1604R B.767-332(ER) 30180
N1605 B.767-332(ER) 30198
N16065 B.767-332(ER) 30199
N1607B B.767-332(ER) 30388
N1608 B.767-332(ER) 30573
N1609 B.767-332(ER) 30574
N1610D B.767-332(ER) 30594
N1611B B.767-332(ER) 30595
N1612T B.767-332(ER) 30575
N1613B B.767-332(ER) 32776 wfu Goodyear,AZ
N169DZ B.767-332(ER) 29689
N171DN B.767-332(ER) 24759
N171DZ B.767-332(ER) 29690 ntu? N170DZ
N172DN B.767-332(ER) 24775
N172DZ B.767-332(ER) 29691
N173DN B.767-332(ER) 24800
N173DZ B.767-332(ER) 29692
N174DN B.767-332(ER) 24802
N174DZ B.767-332(ER) 29693
N175DN B.767-332(ER) 24803
N175DZ B.767-332(ER) 29696 ntu N177DZ
N176DN B.767-332(ER) 25061
N176DZ B.767-332(ER) 29697 ntu N178DZ
N177DN B.767-332(ER) 25122
N177DZ B.767-332(ER) 29698 ntu N179DZ
N178DN B.767-332(ER) 25143
N178DZ B.767-332(ER) 30596
N179DN B.767-332(ER) 25144
N179DZ B.767-332(ER) 30597 u/u, to B-4025
N180DN B.767-332(ER) 25985
N181DN B.767-332(ER) 25986
N182DN B.767-332(ER) 25987
N183DN B.767-332(ER) 27110
N184DN B.767-332(ER) 27111
N185DN B.767-332(ER) 27961
N186DN B.767-332(ER) 27962
N187DN B.767-332(ER) 27582
N188DN B.767-332(ER) 27583
N189DN B.767-332(ER) 25990
N190DN B.767-332(ER) 28447
N191DN B.767-332(ER) 28448
N192DN B.767-332(ER) 28449
N193DN B.767-332(ER) 28450
N194DN B.767-332(ER) 28451
N195DN B.767-332(ER) 28452
N196DN B.767-332(ER) 28453
N197DN B.767-332(ER) 28454
N198DN B.767-332(ER) 28455
N199DN B.767-332(ER) 28456
N301DE B.767-332 25894 nnb N140DL ntu
N302DE B.767-332 25995 nnb N141DL ntu
N303DE B.767-332 25996 nnb N142DL ntu
N304DE B.767-332 25997 nnb N143DL ntu
N305DE B.767-332 25998 nnb N144DL ntu
N306DE B.767-332 25999 nnb N145DL ntu
N307DE B.767-332 26000 nnb
N308DE B.767-332 26001 nnb

DZ's are all -ER

This is 767-300

This is 767-300ER


More capacity on regular 767-300s, that is why they are used transAtlantically.

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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3342 times:

Prior to Sept 11 Delta was flying 763s to DTW from ATL, now we just see the 762

User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3321 times:

But there are more BusinessElite seats on the ERs...wouldn't that generate more $$$?

And an ER is 'extended range', so wouldn't they be the transatlantic 763s!?

I flew ATL-SLC-ATL on 767-300s and they were the 2-class domestic.



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3312 times:

Hey Guys,

That was my planes did flew on:

N1608 B.767-332(ER) 30573 from JFK-VCE by March 2001.
N179DN B.767-332(ER) 25144 from FCO-JFK by March 2001.
N137DL B.767-332 25306 to FLL by January 2001.

This was my planes were did flew on it and This is on the listed by N1608 and N179DN were on Business Elite. Well, good day as for now.

Regards,

Scott


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3305 times:

All DL 763s are 2-class. Domestics have first/coach and international have business/coach.


a.
User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1292 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3295 times:

All transatlantic 767's have the Business-Elite configuration. Some of these serve domestic flights as well. You might see these especially on some transcontinental flights.

User currently offlineTwa902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3271 times:

i flew on

N130DL B.767-332 24080 CVG-MCO
N101DL B.767-232 (Delta's first 767!!!) ORD-SLC

TWA902



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User currently offline2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3269 times:

Flpuck6- there may be more BizElite seats, but there are 40-46 more seats on the plane in domestic config- firstclass/coach- then with BizElite. Also, they don't charge the same price for the domestic BizElite as they do on the international flights- about 8000 for a international flight, domestic is the same price as first... about 2000 on certain routes like LAX-JFK.

763 domestic config. seats 252 passengers
763ER international config. seats 206 or 212 passengers

The diff. is of course made up in coach, which is good on the high density routes these planes usualy fly- in a way, it is sorta like the argument as to why Delta does not have BusinessElite on their 764s.. they can seat more with a domestic config, and actually get more money from it.


User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3258 times:

>>I know there is a lot left out but without looking thats what I can come up with.<<

I think I can help you out:

Transcons:
LAX/SFO-JFK/BOS (763ERs with Business Elite)

ATL-MCO (I think 763ER)



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User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

The regular -300's, and a few ER's are used for domestic ops, and are configured with domestic first class. Those hold 252 passengers. Most of the -ER's are equipped with Business Elite, and quite alot of Business Elite seats, so they hold about 206 passengers. Those all fly the transatlantic routes.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

Delta operates both the -300 and the -300ER. Delta's standard -300's (non ER) operate on domestic flights and have a two class cabin layout.

The 767-300ER's are used on flights to Europe and on some flights to South America. There are some ER's on domestic, transcontinental flights.

Only the -300ER's are fitted with BusinessFirst seats.

The 767-400 is a two class aircraft (First and Economy) only. There are no BusinessFirst seats. These planes are used on domestic flights only, having replaced the L1011's.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3213 times:

Ok thanks alot guys you cleared it up
:D


User currently offlineFanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1964 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

The non-ER aircraft are all powered by GE CF6 engines; I believe the 763 (ER) jets have PW4056 engines.


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User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

I saw a 764 scheduled from ATL to DFW

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

>>The 767-300ER's are used on flights to Europe and on some flights to South America.<<

No, ER's are also used on Domestic Transcons. They are also fitted with Business Elite.



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User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1292 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3139 times:

PanAm747,

They actually admitted that the 767-300ER's are used on some transcons. Also, the 767-300ER is used in South America on at least the Brazil and Argentina flights.


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

767-300ERs are also used on JFK-PHX-SAN and JFK-SEA-PDX. I have also been on them on ATL-MIA, but I am not sure if that was a sub or not.


a.
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

Sorry,

I thought someone said they are ONLY used on Intl. flights.



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User currently offlineThe Coachman From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

I think people have forgotten to mention that the regular B767-300, ie non-ER do not have the range to fly trans-atlantic (max range of regular -300 is in the mid-to-high 5000).


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User currently offlineModesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2789 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

In the past (and probably now), DL's SFO-JFK service is with a 763ER that continues to Europe.

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4880 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3048 times:
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Yes, the ERs (with BizElite) are used on some domestic runs (more since 9/11 reduced transatlantic capacity). They are primarily used on transcons but also on some specific flights between markets you normally would not expect an ER (e.g., SAN-CVG, or PDX-ATL). The best way I found to tell whether you will be riding on an ER or the regular domestic 763 is by the flight number ranges:
Flight #s from DL 10 through DL 180, and DL1980 through DL1999, if they are 763s they are all ERs (e.g., DL179 JFK-SLC, or DL1983 CVG-PDX, DL167 CVG-PDX).


User currently offlineMikeymike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

The aircraft listing above lists 9 -3P6's when in actuality there are only 6 -3P6's. DL has a -324 that looks like a -3P6. There are only a total of (7) ex gulf air or ex asiana aircraft.

User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4880 posts, RR: 25
Reply 25, posted (12 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3019 times:
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3 of the -3P6s were "n.t.u." which I assume means "not taken up"(?). DL only has 6 ex-GF ERs (ships 1501-1506) and 1 ex-OZ ER (not on the list above - N394DL)

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