ChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3918 posts, RR: 2 Posted (11 years 10 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 1870 times:
Now that Delta has Boston-London/Gatwick to themselves, how are they doing on the run? I am hearing that they're not doing that well, but to me that's a function more of the environment and time of year more than anything else. I guess a clue would be whether they stick with a 767-300 through the peak summer season, or bump up capacity to a 777 or MD-11 (neither of which I see happening, unless it's a well-kept secret by DL).
It does seem, despite attempts to sway the flying public, that people continue to prefer Heathrow over Gatwick. Virgin made the hop quite willingly on the BOS run, and boosted capacity from a 747-200 to a 747-400 in the process. I'm hoping Delta does well, because this is their first transatlantic run out of Boston...one of a series of routes they have planned out of here. My sense is that if you can't make Boston-London work (LGW or LHR), then the other routes would seem to be in question...independent of the competition incumbent on the route. The one route I could see a good return on is Boston-Dublin. Aer Lingus has had this to themselves since the world was flat, and all the times I've been on those A330s (four times now, and always in the low season), the planes have been full or nearly so.
Frostbite From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 394 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1728 times:
I expect this route to be axed in the very near future. DL's idea of establishing a transatlantic network out of BOS seemed a little half-baked to begin with....especially beginning with a route to LGW, when the (heavy) competition operates into LHR. Yields have apparently fallen way short of expectations (ie the BizElite numbers Best Western posted) and DL is having a hard time getting even a 50% load factor on 763s with bargain-basement fares.
Sure, it's the off season, and of course 9/11 threw a 100-pound monkey wrench in the works, but I just don't see why DL would want to continue down this path.
It seems like the logical thing, and the thing they've tended towards for years, is to put that intl. 763 back through a hub city. For example, there is a long list of JFK/ATL-Europe routes which have been suspended in recent times (pre- and post-9/11) which would probably work better than BOS-LGW.
Just my two cents....then again BOS has historically been a high-yield market so DL might be willing to ride out this period in hopes of getting a bigger slice of the pie when times get good again.
Exusair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 684 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1630 times:
Great...Let's follow the routings of 2 failed airlines!
The a/c for the BOS flights actually started in LAX.
There is a strategy in place for BOS in the DL system. There is a toss up between US, DL and AA for dominance in BOS. It is a high yield city and supports a broad range of products offered by DL. It is the only station in the DL system to offer all DL products (DL Express, Connection, Shuttle, Mainline and Int'l service [BusinessElite]).
BOS will never be as big for o/d int'l traffic as JFK, it is important for DL to diversify its int'l offerings other than hub and JFK traffic.
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6293 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1562 times:
Even though BOS-LGW is currently a loser, I think DL will hold on to it. They are trying to build up their presence in BOS and they need an int'l presence in order to really achieve that. DL has been slowly increasing the feed into BOS...Halifax will be added in May. Also, DL has the route authority to fly CDG-BOS, but they have delayed it for now.
Next, I think DL should add routes like ALB-BOS, SYR-BOS and really stick it to USAirways. DL has RJ's and US still flies props on these routes. Plus, DL can offer more int'l connections...LGW on DL metal and codeshares to MXP and CDG.
Scottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6442 posts, RR: 33 Reply 14, posted (11 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1552 times:
I'd imagine that BOS-LGW is oversold this coming weekend because the winter school vacation week in Massachusetts is next week. It's a great time to take your kids for a week in England if you're so inclined.