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American 767s, Which Type?  
User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5476 posts, RR: 15
Posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1159 times:

Hi,
I have noticed that American operates a 767-200 on some days, while they have operated a 767-300 on other days for the same flight. For example, I have seen a 762 on some days and a 763 on other days doing ORD-ZRH, and many other routes.

Is this announced in the schedule what type of 767 will be used, or is it made that day depending on the loads for the flight?

I would like more information on this. Thank you.

blink

PS- I saw one of the new AA commercials during the Olympics on NBC, the one I saw was really good. Nice job AA!



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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

Like any other airline, American may adjust the aircraft on a route when demand warrants it (or does not need a larger aircraft) or when maintenance is an issue.

American operates the Boeing 767-200, -200ER, and the -300ER.

The -200ER's are no longer operating to Europe I believe. Now, all transatlantic flights are on the -300ER or the 777.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineAluminumShower From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1093 times:

ORD-ZRH?! Um, AA doesn't fly ORD-ZRH. No, the aircraft type is not decided on that day based on loads. Each aircraft type has to meet a mx parameter on its own and are scheduled that way. The only way you would get a -200 on an international route out of ORD is:

A) It is scheduled as a -200 (not likely right now)
B) There is a last minute equipment sub for some mx reason.


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1066 times:

Blink182: The reason you may think this about the ORD-ZRH route is that last summer, there was a change of equipment mid-season on the route; for the first half of the summer, AA used a 762 on the route, and for the last half, AA used a 763. Not only do I remember this from the schedules, but I also flew the 763 flight two weeks after I had seen a 762 in ZRH (coming in from DFW on the 777).

But to answer your question: no, the choice for which type of 767 will be used on a particular day is not made the day of the flight. Right now, I think all AA 767 flights over the Atlantic are done with 763s.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5476 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

Thanks guys. I know that ORD-ZRH is not being operated by American right now, I was just using that as an example. I have flown that route before in 1998.

So, is it pretty much based on maintenence and the overall loads for the flight(when operated in the past)?

Thanks again,
blink



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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

That´s one of the points why airlines love commonality - they can do last minute changes if the loads justify it, and the same crew can just use the other plane, no need to reschedule crews.

I remember a Lufthansa flight FRA-RIX, the plane scheduled was a 737-300 (coming in from NCE) that had a little problem. Because there were only like 30 pax, the subsitution a/c was a 737-500, not -300.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3410 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 949 times:


This change from acft type to another can be for operational or technical reasons !!!


User currently offlineAAR90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3451 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 908 times:

>So, is it pretty much based on maintenence and the
>overall loads for the flight(when operated in the past)?

Last minute change of equipment is for maintenance related reasons only. It might not have anything to do with the flight in question, but the need to move the scheduled aircraft to cover a different flight that the -200 actually flown was not qualified to operate.

An equipment change is not a simple matter of changing one aircraft for another. It requires a lot of coordination to ensure everything happens while not messing up previous scheduling. A very complex task to accomplish quickly.



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User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 879 times:

Are there PTV's in any class of AA 767's?

User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5476 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 868 times:

KHI747- I have flown the 763 on AA overseas in business class, and economy class.

There isn't any PTVs in business class, but when I flew business class with them(ORD-ZRH 1999) they handed out ptvs with mini-videokassettes that had movies on them. I watched "You've Got Mail." I didn't feel like watching another movie, so I didn't request another movie when the F/A's came around. There were a lot of good movie choices though. This was in 1999 so things might have changed since then.

I flew Economy class in August '01 ORD-LHR, and there were no PTV's, just the normal overhead tv's mounted on the aisle ceilings throughout the cabin.

I do not know about first class though.

I hope this helps.

blink



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User currently offlineBombayhog From United States of America, joined May 2001, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 860 times:

When you check flight schedules on aa.com, the equipment is listed as "763" or "762". So they do specify, which would suggest that they plan these things out beforehand, as has been previously stated. Just thought I'd add that bit of information though.

/gwl


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 852 times:

American has PTV's in 8 of its Airbus A300's that were used for North Atlantic operations but have since been withdrawn. The 777's also have PTV's. The entire 767 fleet (-200, -200ER, and -300ER) do not have PTV's.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineKHI747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 828 times:

Thank you everyone for the response...

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