AdamHarvard From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0 Posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2707 times:
I heard a rumour that QF were planning to 'rent' their 747's for the day to another airline during layovers at LHR. QF flights arrive early in the morning at LHR and leave late at night thus spend all day sitting on the ground, on A.net I have seen a picture of a QF 744 at Thesaloniki in greece which is not part of the QF network.....is this a 'day charter'? Do any other long haul airlines use/rent their planes for local flights during long layovers?
Hailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2436 times:
qf5/6 into/out of FRA has about 16 hours of ground time and has been used into various destinations in the canaries, places like palma and also mainland spain - probably beats having it stand in FRA all day accruing parking charges....
RickB From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2424 times:
Do BA do day flights with their 744's when they are parked for the day in Johannesburg? I always thought it was a huge waste of an aircraft just being sat at the airport all day - same goes for Garuda's 744 parked at Gatwick for most of the day.
Bkkair From Thailand, joined Aug 2001, 409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
A F/A friend who works for QF gave me his pattern one day and I was amazed to see him flying all kinds of day charters around Europe during the day. These charters are operated by complete QF crews. Very strange but very smart of QF.
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2309 times:
I dont know about CX or QF but SAA choose to have a day stop over. It increases business as it means people have nice flight times. Depart Sout Africa in the evening, sleep on the night flight. Land early morning and you have the whole day ahead of you, the same for the return trip.
Business men especially like the timings so that is one reason why.
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2283 times:
I was arguing with Capt. Picard the other week about whether the timing of the Virgin flight from Cape Town to Heathrow is was timed well.It leaves LHR at night,gets into CPT early morning and leaves at like 8 am for LHR arriving LHR early evening.This must result in poor yield as I suspect most business men do prefer flying at night
AdamHarvard From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2236 times:
thanks for all the interesting replies.....Does anybody know if Qantas bases any crews in London or Frankfurt over the summer to operate any of these 'local charters'? or do the Australian crews fly these short sectors during layover time before returning the aircraft to Oz as a scheduled QF flight?
AJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2403 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2216 times:
The re-introduction of the QF31/32 will reduce extended layovers of Qantas Boeing 747-400s. This lunch time arrival and departure means that two of the aircraft only have half a day at Heathrow.
Charters are more common in Summer, flown for cruise companies, often on behalf of BA.