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Impact Of Cathay's 747s With New Winglets?  
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

What would the impact be to the rest of Cathay Pacific's fleet and future fleet planning if as some on the forum have said the 747-400s are to receive new winglets? This would mean that the aircraft would not be retiring, and therefore, no new aircraft would be needed to take their place. How would the A340-600 fair or the A380?


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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

Is CX Flyboy out there or HKGspotter? CX folks come on!


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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Heard it's just rumours... but I do hope to see the new winglets... I think it can save up to 7% more fuel than the current 2% winglet?


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User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

B-HOX would be the first to get the new winglets.


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User currently offlineMr.BA From Singapore, joined Sep 2000, 3423 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

Is it confirmed?


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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

New winglets? I haven't heard of this. I know the upcoming version of the 747 is supposed to have winglets something like the 767-400, but I haven't heard of any retrofitting program, certainly not this soon. You have a source?

Charles


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

We are talking the about the winglets on the 737's. One ex FedEx 747 had them for a while (The one now with MK)

Cant find the picture on the net !!



User currently offlineTurbineBeaver From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

CFalk....the 767-400 doesn't have winglets.

TB


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Well, maybe not in the classic sense, but they are not the usual wingtips.

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Charles


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Not those, they are the big ones like the BBJ.

User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

or similar to those on the 737NG???


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User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

YES.

Can any of you find a pic on the net of the 747-200 with these winglets ???


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

have a look at this older post:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/705280/4/



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User currently offlineBaliMorris From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1363 times:

I'd be very interested in seeing a picture of a 747 with the 737NG-style blended winglets. Took a quick look at the photo database and this is what I found. It's a picture of a 747 that was apparently used to test the new winglets. Unfortunately, the aircraft wasn't wearing them at the time this photo was taken.


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User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

Let me clear some things up.

The blended winglet kit will only be for the 747-200B and the -200F.
It will not available for the 747-400 or -400F. The wingtip mounting on the -400 is totaly diffrent from the -200.

The 747-400ER and -400ERF will have Raked Winglets like the 767-400.
(This is not 100% fact yet, Boeing is windtunnel testing both)



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User currently offlineAeromexico757 From Mexico, joined Aug 2000, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1283 times:

I saw a picture of the 747 with the winglets, but it was in the Airways magazine, I will try to find the year and the month for those who have that magazine, and i will post it later.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

I am also of the understanding that Aviation Partners blended winglets were only produced for 747-200s. BUT, there has been reports from within CX that B-HOX is heading to Xiamen for some "special" work which may be in the form of new winglets!


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User currently offline747-600X From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2792 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

Everything I've heard or seen from Boeing indicates 747-400ER, and -400ERF winglets identical to those on 747-400s today. The other 747-X varients were supposed to feature much taller, leaner winglets, similar to those on 737-800s, but I haven't heard of any indication of these being used on the ER models.


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User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

The rumour about B-HOX is probably talking about new scheme rather than the winglets. But it seems there is no one can be sure about this.

r panda


User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1184 times:

If they can fit Gulfstreams, 747-200's and 737's I think they can fit a 744. If CX said they will put them on all the 744's it will be big bucks for Aviation Partners.

User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1180 times:

For the record B-HOW goes to Australia tomorrow for storage.

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