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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2384 times:
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Forget BA, UA, AA, SQ, EK, DL, LH etc.

But are there any airlines that you would consider "dodgy", which a safety record thats ever been under scrutiny and would rather avoid? Personally there are some asian airlines that i would hesitate to fly on.

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User currently offline777-200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1021 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2310 times:

You Could'nt pay me to Fly on Biman Bangladesh Airlines!!!!



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
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LOL

Thats one airline i will always try to avoid!!



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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6970 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Once Biman bought a DC10 (not sure which one) for spares (canibalisation), and no one wanted to insure the plane for it's "delivery flight".

One airline to avoid from experience is AWAir... fuel leak, engine failure and cabin crew fights on ONE flight. You don't need a law againts them, you need a law againts flying them!

Mandala499



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User currently offlineAamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1061 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

I dont like the look of Korean. For some reason i have always percieved them as a "dodgy" airline.
I would hesitate to fly on some other airlines, particularly Chinese ones, or some of the smaller countries in Africa, and just about any airline in Mexico, they dont appear to me to be "safe".


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4811 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2246 times:

Korean has made big strides in safety after an extensive audit by Delta. However, China Airlines (Taiwan) has a dubious record that didn't improve after the news of the A340 taxiway takeoff.

User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5617 posts, RR: 28
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Since the demise of TAESA, the remaining airlines of Mexico are very well-regarded.

I have flown Mexicana (several times); and AeroMexico (a lot); and have found both to be well-run and very comfortable. My personal preference is for AeroMexico, for no particular reason.

Looking forward to flying with Azteca at earliest appropriate opportunity!



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User currently onlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6343 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2218 times:

There are several that I would not fly on for anything. They must, however remain nameless. I have to respect confidentality requests by my host company. None have been mentioned here but one is a fairly new carrier in the US that seems to be highly regarded by several members present. Please don't ask, I can't tell for professional reasons. If anyone has a doubt about safety, look to the FAA for the answers.


Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

They dont get much more racist then some of you guys.

"Personally there are some asian airlines that i would hesitate to fly on"

"I would hesitate to fly on some other airlines, particularly Chinese ones"

What the hell is wrong with Chinese Airlines ??. I've just flown China Eastern and I would do again without a secong thought. What about China Southern ?, Air China ?, Shanghai Airlines ?, China Xinjiang ?.

I keep away from carriers that have stupid pilots and bad service.

Bad pilots: CI, KE, SQ, SU etc
Bad Service: NW, UA, DL etc




User currently offlineAWA22 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

I personally have no problem flying any carrier. For those who decide to label an airline unsafe, dodgy or what ever else because of some incidents such as engine failure, fuel leaks etc. These things happen and unless its happening all the time on a large number of flights I would not label the airline dodgy. I have flown on every major US airline and a few smaller ones. I have had an engine fail on 3 different airlines and have been delayed because of fuel leaks on 5 different airlines. I would not call any of those airlines dodgy just because of a few incidents that I experienced on them.

User currently offlineAirFranceJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Working for AF at JFK, we did regular handling for Air Afrique's weekly flights to Dakar and Abidjan, and yet every week, I was still amazed at the ability of their Airbus 300-600 to take off with all those bags on board. RK's flights were notorious for their excess bags. Sometimes at the jetways, we would take in excess of 2 or 3 container loads of bags. In all honesty, I would rather take a boat to Africa, than Air Afrique.

User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

My cousin was on a flight in Ethiopia, I hesitate to say Air Ethiopia because I am not sure, and the pilot AND co-pilot locked themselves out of the cockpit and had to break the door down with a hatchet. Thats dodgy.

User currently offlineTrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3258 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Let's get some things straight. Chinese airlines have very good safety records due to stringent monitoring by the Chinese government. The same cannot be said about China Airlines, which is Taiwanese and has one of the world's worst safety records. Korean has also been very spotty. Generally, though, airlines from other Asian countries such as Japan, Singapore, Malaysia and so on have good records.

Trintocan.



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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Afay, your cousin and about a zillion other peoples.

Please stop perpetrating these myths!

http://www.snopes.com/travel/airline/fireaxe.htm



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User currently offlineAerialpingpong From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

I generally have no reservations flying most carriers, but there are some I would avoid on general principle because of dodgy practices.

For example, I'm still not sure about flying Korean Air, judging by the number of 747s they've managed to fly to Valhalla.

Also not too sure about KLM anymore. My last experience is that they try to extort every single buck they can out of non-full fare paying passengers.


User currently offlineNalanji From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Korean Air are quite dodgy, they managed to fly one of their 747-200F's into a field after just a simple fault a couple of years ago here in the UK! The airline would have to pay ME to fly with them!

User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

HKGSpotter1, you've got quite a bad taste. Dozens of people said that even SU has bad service, it has great pilots who are ex military.
Airlines I would not fly:
Bimian
China Airlines
Most of the African Carriers
Newer, start up airlines.
Bouraq
Indian Airlines
Ariana (Not for the moment)
Iraqi Airways


User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

I fly SU and KE a lot and find them better all round than virtually all North American airlines with the exception of Delta and South West.

At the end of the day I don't really know what makes a plane (or a car, motorbike, rollercoaster ... ) safe or unsafe. Any of these activities involves risk and unknown variables so doing them is a leap of faith in other people doing their jobs properly which by and large they do.

Labelling Asian or African airlines as being inherently unsafe because they are Asian or African suggests a technical and legal superioirity in other countries which is more fiction than fact.



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User currently offlineMehtabrahman From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 228 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2019 times:

777-200,
I have only one question to ask you....have you ever flown with Biman ever in your life? I think you should think prior to commenting on an airline before looking down on it! I think the only reason you have commented negatively about Biman is that you are a racist Bas###d. Out of the thousands of people who fly with Biman every year, it is not many but only a handful of passengers who have something negative to say about Biman, and the rest are more often than not pleased with the service provided, keeping in mind the cheap fares Biman offers to its passengers.
I have flown Biman on several sectors, and have almost always been very happy with their service. I am sure there are more passengers out there who will agree with me about Biman and its service.


User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1992 times:

i would fly anyone once except Garuda Indonisia and Aeroflot. not too sure about them. i have flown with China Airlines once and they were fine. never a problem. i have even flew Air Vanuatu and Air New Guinei

User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 1974 times:

Air Gabon
Cameroon Airlines
Biman
PIA
Air India
Ghana Airways

LGW


User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

air india has got a very good safety record, even with the ageing fleet!


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29840 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Any airline that is owned, managed or consulted by Neil Berght.

Anybody who remembers MarkAir knows what I am talking about. Pissed


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