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LHR Is NOT The World's Busiest Airport!  
User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

Today in school I challenged my Geography teacher who is an English that London Heathrow is NOT the world's busiest airport neither was it largest airport.

I told him that :-
1. Atlanta was the world's busiest airport in terms of aircraft movements

2. and Chicago Ohare biggest in terms of passengers.

3. Dallas Fort Worth is the worlds largest in terms of land area.

4. I also said LHR MIGHT be the world's busiest airport in terms of destinations departing there or in terms of number of international airlines flying into it.

5. I further explained that with ATL's four runways and Delta Airlines, USA's third largest airline with fleet over 570 planes , it is not surprising. LHR is busy plus the fact that the slots are limited due to the limited space at the airport. correct?

6. He said that if I am correct then it is because ATL has four runways and LHR has only two. To what I belive, LHR has three runways rite?

7. He said that during peak hours at LHR there are sometimes 700 planes waiting to land. Is that true? I doubt but maybe he meant 700 planes waiting to take off and land?

8. Also, is it correct to say KLIA (KUL) is bigger than Heathrow in terms of built-up area?

Can someone clarify?

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineStandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

Re 7.
700 planes waiting to land. What does your teacher smoke at home? I think that might stretch the hold at Bovingdon to FL650.

But basically it's simple:
LHR has the world's most international passengers.
ATL has the most aicraft movements.
ORD has the most overall passengers.
Don't know about land area, but DFW looked big to me when I went there.
Funny that someone told me Bogota was bigger: I've been in there many times and I can't quite believe that.


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

As far as I know LHR is the busiest INTERNATIONAL airport in terms of both passengers and aircraft movements. Moreover, BA is the world´s largest airline in terms of international passengers. Plus London as a whole might be the busiest CITY, I´m not postive about that.

And isn´t the airport that covers the largest area somewhere in Saudi? King Khaleed?

Daniel Smile

P.S.: You know what the busiest airport (passenger numbers) was in September 2001? Tokyo-Haneda!


User currently offlineStandby87 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2001, 536 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

LHR has 3 runways, but you can only use 2 at the same time in practice:

27R for t/o, 27L for landings or v-v. Normal situation.

23 for landing, 27R for take-off. On horrible weather days.


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3297 times:

Seoul Inchon airport is also covering a huge area, if not the biggest.


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User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Montreal Mirabel has the biggest land area, if I'm not mistaken.


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User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3255 times:

I think Jeddah/Riyaldh Airport has the most land area.

User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

Montreal Mirabel, at the time of its construction, 1970, was considered the world's largest airport.

see http://www.airodyssey.net/articles/mirabel.html

Based on an internet search, at least three airports claim to be the world's largest.

Denver, DFW and King Kahled (sp?).

Kuala Lampur also lays a claim to the "World's Largest" moniker. See http://www.kisho.co.jp/WorksAndProjects/Works/klia/


User currently offlineHartsfieldboy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

A couple of you have it mixed up.

For 2001:
ATL is the busiest in terms of PASSENGERS.
ORD is busiest in the terms of MOVEMENTS.

In 2000, ATL was busiest in both categories.

Check here: http://www.airports.org/traffic/index.html

LHR is busiest in INTERNATIONAL. And, I think, London is busiest when you combine all of London's airports.


User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3114 times:

I saw some statistics somewhere, that when you left out GA/Executive-traffic, ATL still held the lead on MVT's -- but it was close, though.
Oh well .. we'll see when the official stats show up - most likely in the fall sometime .. FAA aren't really effective with the stats ...




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User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3102 times:

From what I know, Jeddah airport has the largest terminal to handle hajj flights whereas Mirabel has the largest land area.


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User currently offlineOdiE From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3086 times:

Malaysia's Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA), KUL have a land area of 100 square kilometers or 38.6 square miles. Don't know how it compared to some airport in the Middle East, but it's sure very big!

User currently offlineZID From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 294 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

There are quite a few people here that need to be prefacing their statements with "I think" or "I believe".

2001 most passengers : Atlanta Hartsfield ATL
2001 most total aircraft movements : Chicago O'Hare ORD
2001 most cargo tonnage: Memphis International MEM

First off, no, even if you did not count general aviation or military ops ATL would have still come up 16,221 ops short of ORD.

Secondly, Los Angeles International LAX, Van Nuys VNY and John Wayne Orange County SNA - the three busiest airports in LA - had 1,580,447 ops last year. Therefore it is mathematically impossible for London's three busiest to have more since their busiest, Heathrow, had four hundred and fifty some thousand; and that is without throwing in Long Beach's LGB's 358,508 to the LA total.

Heathrow is the busiest non-American airport and it ranks 15th or 16th in the world. Your Heathrow's and Charles de Gaulle's of the world do fairly well in the passenger number department, but when discussing shear numbers of aircraft nobody comes close to the larger American airports. It's simple, most of the larger American airports have 737's and the like serving 200 domestic destinations with great frequency and wide bodies serving a hundred or so international destinations, whereas LHR, CDG, NRT, etc... have 747's and such serving 200 international destinations and smaller planes serving 30 to 50 nearby airports.



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User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

I know for sure that FRA is landwise the smallest international airport with only 17 square km or maybe I should say the smallest major airport.

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User currently offlineJabpilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

This site shows the passenger, cargo and aircraft movement numbers for Jan.-June 2001.

http://www.airports.org/traffic/busiest.html

Jeff

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

London is indeed the busiest city passenger-wise:

(2000 figures in millions)
LHR - 64
LGW - 31.7
STN 11.7
LTN - 6
LCY - 1.6
total - 115

Runners-up are Chicago, Tokyo, Atlanta, Paris, Los Angeles, Dallas, New York, Frankfurt, San Francisco.

Daniel Smile


User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13470 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2916 times:
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If you take Microsoft Flight Simulator movements into account, Chicago's Meigs Field is the world's busiest airport.  Big grin


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

Airbus Lover,

You made some minor errors.

Just recently, Chicago O'hare (ORD) took the lead as the busiest airport in the world in both aircraft and passenger movement. So now Atlanta (ATL) is the 2nd busiest airport in the world in both aircraft and passenger movement.

Another thing, Dallas/Ft. Worth (DFW) is not the largest airport in the world.

Riyadh King Fahd International Airport (RUH) is the largest airport in the world, followed by Denver International Airport (DEN), then Dallas/Ft. Worth International Airport (DFW).

So Dallas/Ft. Worth (DFW) is the 3rd largest in the world.

Regards




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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3098 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

Actually, I think Fargo N.D. has the most aircraft movements.


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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7965 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2840 times:

I think for an airport where the majority of traffic is international flights, LHR wins hands down.

This is good reason why the British government ought to seriously look at a site in the Thames Estuary to build a super airport with 6-8 runways capable of simultaneously takeoff/landing operations and 5-6 large terminals so LHR can be phased out.


User currently offlineTullamarine From Australia, joined Aug 1999, 1506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

It may not be the busiest but it is the most interesting with arrivals and departures from all over the world.

There is no other airport with the diversity of types and airlines though other interesting airports that I've visited with a huge range of airlines and types of planes include LAX, ORD, HKG and SYD.



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2777 times:

Thanks people for correcting me and giving extra info.

So from here I learned that:

Busiest (pax and a/c): ORD
ATL is the second.

Busiest *international traffic*: LHR
anyone kno which airport is the second?

Largest terminal: Jeddah?
Largest area (is it built up or land?): Riyadh, Denver then DFW.

Is it true that if land area goes and KLIA expands fully, they will be the world's largest airport in land area (i am not sure built up or land) with 5 runways and is able to handle 100 million pax.


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Well, since carries the most international passengers behind BA, my guess would be FRA. CDG is an option too, they have recently surpassed FRA as busiest airport on the European mainland. Come to think of it, the bulk of fomestic traffic out of Paris is from ORY, while the FRA domestic traffic naturally is from FRA itself - so CDG probably has more intl pax than FRA.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2760 times:

thanks. anyone can answer more and other of my new questions?

User currently offlineVgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2761 times:

Gatwick is the worlds bussiest single runway airport.


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25 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : I wanted to post "since LH carries the most international passengers behind BA..." - my post makes a little more sense with these additional two lette
26 Airbus Lover : rite... but i think it will be CDG? am i wrong?
27 HlywdCatft : For one week in July Oshkosh Wisconsin is the busiest airport in the world in terms of movements. Yes Chicago passed up Atlanta in terms of movements
28 Av8trxx : The worlds biggest airport in terms of land area is JED-King Abdulaziz in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia at over 84 sq miles.
29 Thomacf : Riyadh International is the world's largest covering 89 square miles!!! It is in the Guiness Book of World Records.
30 HlywdCatft : Riyadh International is the world's largest covering 89 square miles!!! It is in the Guiness Book of World Records. Yeah but I believe the majority of
31 Airbus Lover : So it is Riyadh and followed by Jeddah or DEN and DFW.
32 PW100 : There's always lots of confusion about claims that airport have over being the busiest airport. LHR every year calims that they are the busiest INTERN
33 Donder10 : LHR is the busiest internation airport based on INTERNATIONAL TRAFFIC!Alot of flights at ATL are for feed whereas LHR I suspect has more O&D traffic a
34 Jj : Easy maths, would prove you that 700 aircraft waiting to land at LHR is a cause of your teacher smoking some kind of herb or other things. Heathrwos
35 Crank : I thought King Khaled Intl. was the largest with 220 sq. kilometres
36 Post contains images EGGD : Its been debated before.. alot of figures get messed up, there are alot of factors, although one thing for sure is that ATL is biggest in terms of pas
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