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SkyWest To Fly For US Airways?  
User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2972 times:
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I'm not sure that this has been discussed yet... I tried to search for it and didn't come up with anything.

In today's PlaneBusiness Banter, there's a mention of a deal pending to have SkyWest RJs do US Airways flying with some sort of fence in place and some involvement of US Airways pilots in the new flying.

There was a letter circulated to SkyWest pilots, but little further detail.

Does anyone here know more about this? I can't seem to find anything on it...

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User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2932 times:

All this SkyWest employee can say is that "SkyWest, like all major airlines, is always negotiating with potential partners to capitalize on synergies and the revenue environment"... or something like that.

:D

Pilot issues (on the SkyWest side as well) are the biggest issue... Stay tuned!


User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2913 times:
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Awww.... come on now... don't hold out on us  Smile

(kidding, I understand, but you are now on the hook to keep us up to date with semi-public news )


User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Rest assured, Flashmeister. Big grin

If anything, SkyWest wants to remain strictly independent, with its own policies that its been using for 30 years, as it expands even further.


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2872 times:

Where is SkyWest going to get the RJs to paint in US Airways colors?

Hmmm.. bye bye United?


User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

SkyWest is committed to United.

The SFO station is the jewel of achievement in the OO system.


User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

SkyWest is committed to United
While that is true for certain markets, I don't think it in any way limits their opportunity or desire to expand through additional agreements with other carriers. Remember, it was only a few years ago that OO was 'committed' solely to DL. Carriers like SkyWest, Mesa and to some extent American Eagle, have shown that its possible, and profitable, to serve multiple masters.



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User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

Searpqx: Absolutely.

To work at SkyWest you cannot have the mentality of being just a United Express carrier or just a Delta Connection carrier. We are both, and some people I know tend to forget that point.

It's very cool, and there's been major expansion as of late on both sides of the operation, DLC expanding out of DFW and UAX expanding out of DEN, in addition to more capacity/new routes being added out of SFO & LAX.

We are, without a doubt, committed to both carriers, and should another opportunity arise, we will see if it is worth it. The people at OO Corporate all have good heads on their shoulders, and I couldn't be more proud of my management, no matter the decisions they make.

I fly for free on US Airways already (as per local station agreement), so that wouldn't change anything...  Big grin but it'd be one more airline to represent proudly.  Smile

Kai



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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Ok.. being committed to both Delta and United is great.. but again, where are the RJs going to come from? If they divert future deliveries to USX, that means either the UAX or DLC would see a significant slowdown in growth.. there are only so many aircraft on order.

User currently offlineSFOintern From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 770 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Of course SkyWest isn't only committed to United.

SkyWest is commited to its partners, meaning it will not "ditch" one in favor of another without consent... SkyWest is about cooperation and teamwork.

Kohflot, I don't think you'll see CRJs come from the UA and DL side... AFAIK the talks are very preliminary, and any potential US aircraft I think would mean more orders.

Of course, there's the whole UAL scope...


User currently offlineAv8trxx From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

The rumor mill churns at FlightInfo:

"The deal that we are hearing is that 50% of the crews will come from USAir pilots that are on furlough. The other 50% will be growth for SkyWest. Next Thurs our chief pilot is coming to SLC for a meeting about this. I will keep you posted. Don't know any number of RJs or bases or destinations..."


"The only part of this that makes sense is that Skywest has the financial moxie to swing the deal and Delta Connection has 104 aircraft on firm order and 396 options that they can not accept due to ALPA's restrictions. Those aircraft have got to go somewhere... "

"this whole USAir/Skywest deal is bad news for Skywest. most of the pilots here at Skywest feel the same way (for the information we have so far). USAir tried to get the same deal with their wholly owned carrer's.... they said 'no', now they are trying to get their furloughed pilots into what would be 'our' jet's. what makes them think we'll accept it over them? i get to work with so-called 'junior' pilots to me who will be holding captain on the jet and making more money than me for the same job. screw that s**t. in addition, they have recall rights at USAir. do you think they'll give two sh**t's flying for skywest. this whole deal is just a bailout for USAir mainline.... and skywest is holding the bucket."


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2764 times:

If that's the deal - US pilots flying SkyWest equipment - you can bet your bottom dollar that SkyWest pilots are going to vote in a union pretty quick..

The other problem for SkyWest is getting itself aligned with an airline in a precarious financial position. If they paint 35 of those 104 firms in US colors, what happens if/when US goes belly up?

This sounds like a bad deal for SkyWest in the making.. if I were one of you employees, I'd try to get as much information as possible about it before accepting it hook, line, and sinker.


User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

but how would skywest be any use to usairways. usairways main airports are all along the east coast, and skywest flies mainly around the western half of the country. so how would skywest flights help provide connections for mainline usairways flights.

User currently offlineCRJCA From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

It has nothing to do with geographical location. It has to do with scope and getting aircraft on the property for both Skywest and USAirways. Skywest is running into scope issues with United and Delta so they fear for the future of their RJ deliveries. USAirways needs RJ's to stop the bleeding so there you go.

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2736 times:

i guess i am not understanding it real well. but if skywest was to start operating for usairways they would add new routes throughout the usairways system. so regardless that current skywest routes are in the west, they would add a number of routes out of phl or pit in the east.

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