9Y-ISA From Trinidad and Tobago, joined May 2001, 221 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
Yeh Inbound this one is real. I knew they leased a B747 years ago and I was waiting to see a picture of it. I saw it on a site quite a while back. Nice site by the way. It gives you a good update of fleets for any airline from past to present. Here is the link: http://aerotransport.free.fr/index.html?Airlines/a106487
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 37 Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2391 times:
Look, the screeners have much better trained eyes than you, so leave it up to their judgement to decide whether a photo is fake or not (which this clearly ISN'T). Its not easy to fake a photo, and if someone did, it'd not be up to A.net standards anyway..
Woodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1023 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2344 times:
Okay- it really does look real except that................
LX-LCV is the current registration for one of their 747-400Fs so I dont know if they perhaps recycled on old reg which seems unlikely (to me) since all their -400Fs have regs in sequence. If this was a cargolux aircraft, why is there no cargo door? It would seem to be rather useless as a freighter without a cargo door! One more thing that bothers me a little is, why would an airline lease a freighter from an all air cargo company to carry passengers? Of course, from the photo we see that this aircraft is not a freighter so, it makes me doubt that its a Cargolux aircraft.
Woodsboy From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1023 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2309 times:
As far as I know, Cargolux never operated any 747-100s, they had all -200s before they went to buying new -400Fs.
The reg in the picture is not clear, but before I even read the caption on the picture I concluded that it said LX-LCV which immediately raised a red flag with me. I use to work with Cargolux here in Fairbanks and I knew that LX-LCV was one of their -400s, I have been on that plane! I see no reason why Cargolux would recycle reg. numbers so my guess is that this pic is not for real.
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 37 Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2304 times:
Its getting weird, caus the Cargolux Classic747's were 747-200C's (thx Woodsboy), with passenger windows BUT with the 742's they have the row of windows on the Upper deck, whereas the 747 in that picture is clearly a 747-100 with the 3 windows on the upper deck.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7255 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2286 times:
It's a real photo with the correct registration. Looking at my Jetliner Production list, I find:
LX-LCV 20105/77 ex N9666 which was leased by Cargolux 2nd July 1986, sub-leased to Iran Air 10th July 1986 and returned to Cargolux 20th September 1986. It
was sub-leased to Air Inter in April 1987.
We in MAN saw LX-FCV and LX-GCV operating to the Caribbean on a regular basis in 1986 and 1987 using Trans Jamaica Airlines and International Caribbean flight numbers but the planes were operated by Lionair, which, I believe, was a passenger-carrying subsidiary of Cargolux at the time.
IMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6243 posts, RR: 36 Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2205 times:
Now my brain hurts. LX-LCV was, as David said, a -123 operated by Cargolux. It was leased to Air Inter in March of 1987 for a short time. By the date on the picture, it must have been wet-leased to BWIA the whole time. I'd never heard of it though. I guess I need to pull out the old OAGs and check.
Is grammar no longer taught is schools? Saying "me and her" or some such implies illiteracy.
9y-isa From Trinidad and Tobago, joined May 2001, 221 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2181 times:
Inbound, it's RB211 here, I see how some other members of this forum believe that they are the advanced aircraft photo specialists. What Can I say, we not up to them standard
I see how easy it is to doubt something like this. A few months ago 9Y-ISA sent me a photo of a DC-10 in BWIA new colours..reg. was 9Y-DC10 or something. It looked pretty damned real to me. The ONLY way I knew it was not real was that well, we know the guys at BWIA don't even want to hear the word DC-10 and no way would they waste $$ to paint a DC-10 in new colours. ESP. since we follow BWIA fleet changes everyday and heard nothing of it. Anyways I saw your reply about my birthday to my sis..man you real jokey yes!! Oh my PPL should be done this week, Wx permitting, but CPL ground school started last week.
Patroni From Luxembourg, joined Aug 1999, 1403 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2100 times:
About Cargolux and passenger aircraft : In the past, Cargolux used to operate passenger aircraft with their subsidiary "Lion Air".
There were also passenger 747 operated for the Hajj flights to Mecca and for a number of other carriers.
Right now, Cargolux has a fleet of 11 747-400F's, LX-FCV, GCV, ICV (the prototype which was original planned for AF...), KCV, LCV, MCV, NCV, OCV, PCV, RCV and SCV... TCV is due to arrive later this year. Nevertheless several registrations are "recycled". There have been for example several FCV's..... So just because you don't see a Cargolux -100 or -200 nowadays does not mean that it never existed!
For more information check Oli Sigurdsson's page about the CL-44, but also about the aircraft in 30 years of Cargolux service :