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Is Anyone Else Upset With Airliners Magazine?  
User currently offlineRolex01 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1860 times:

I may not be renewing my subscription after these past two issues.

In issue 73... Page 13. On Approach.

The next issue of Airliners will feature Minnesota Based Sun Country Airlines, as it continues transitioning to a new fleet and livery. Ralph Olson reports on the history of John Wayne Airport in Orange Country (????COUNTY MAYBE!) and brings us up to date on its plans for the future.

Ok, the spelling error isnt a big deal. What is a big deal is in this latest issue, there is no story about Orange County. Maybe they are holding off for the El Toro vote March 5th, but, they should have known that months in advance. Now, I get the new issue and a huge story of how Sun Country is done like TWA is done... Well, they jumped the gun on that one didnt they? Sun Country isnt done, and they are starting scheduled service once again. I hope they sincerely apologize for that mistake. They wrote them off quicker than flies stick to $hit.

I may have to subscribe to a non bi-monthly magazine.. Airways after this. I am very dissapointed as I have been an avid Airliners magazine reader for years. This has got to be the most embarrassing thing that could have happened. Maybe they should start putting out monthly?

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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4608 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

I don't know if it's just me, but I've been seeing fewer and fewer good airport profiles in Airliners the past year. I haven't bought it for several issues now because of that. Airways doesn't seem to have as many good airport profiles either, though they did manage to get a good profile of Heathrow in the most recent issue. Airliner World seems to be the only one that dependably has good airport profiles these days, and they often have more than one.


Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6336 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

I must say that I do think that Airliners shoud go monthly, but about the mistake they will apologize in the next issue. I subscribe to both Airways and Airliners and I must say that they are both good magazines.

Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineRussianplnelvr From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

I think Airliners and Airways used to be on par with one another. Now however, it seems to me that Airways is taking the lead. They have better aritcles and more updated news. Airliners seems to have fallen behind. I just bought the new issue today and it completely sucks. The news they report on is already old news by the time it hits the shelves. The should update their magazine and make it monthly.

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6053 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

Airliners has never been the same since John Wegg left
and started 'Airways'

It immediately eclipsed 'airliners' in every area and has remained far superior.

In my opinion 'Airliners is now a very dry boring publication.

The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.
User currently offlineRussianplnelvr From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1710 times:


User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1690 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

I did not renew this year.

So I took the 40 bucks I send to them and used it to upgrade to a real magazine.

I'm now a proud owner of a subscription to AW&ST.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6482 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Sinlock. You PAY for AW&ST? A good magazine, yes indeed. But with a little thought it can be gotten for free.

I always thought I would work until I died. I find that I am ready to not work anymore.
User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

hell i remember when Airliners was seasonal, just 4 issues a year. Yes they do need to go monthly like their British Counterpart Airliner World and Airways.

I haven't renewed my subscription yet to Airliners either after having it since summer of 1992. I will though one of these days.

User currently offlineJfk747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

yea, airliners did a whole five page thing on Legend Airlines last year. Going on and on. Legend this legend that. Too bad it hit the news stand a month after the went bankrupt and shut down.

User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

I agree- I used to hate Airways, but now, compared to Airliners, it's highest on my list. I don't know what happened, but the articles are starting to become more vague and "the material that reader's don't want to read anymore!!!" Every single time I open Airliners I see that stupid 707 advertisement on the front cover. Every single time I see the same adds. Every single time since I subscribed I am disapointed. Furthermore, they spend a chunk of time creating OLD NEWS, decreasing its accuracy by every day. READERS DON'T WANT TO READ OLD NEWS, IF ANYONE HASN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET!!! It's downright obnoxious and uninformitive and will give you the wrong idea.

Looking at the latest issues- Airways- "Flying the Tripple Seven." Now that's the kind of title that makes you go "Ooh! Flying the best of the best." That's the kind of article you want to read. In Airliners- the Legend thing as some of you mentioned before. It does not take 5 pages to create a review of an airline. Maybe 4, but when you go on and on with anything the reader gets bored and doesn't want to have anything to do with you anymore. Even in the latest issue of Airliners- SunCountry. SunCountry this SunCountry that. "After 9-11." Can you say "discussed to death?!" The point of a magazine and any other article of media giving the reader news is to have NEW news THAT HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED TO DEATH!!! 9-11 is over. It has already happened. Sure it was a bad thing, but we have to move on. Here we are in Feb. 02 discussing Sept. 01. Looking at it again- a 10 page article on Spantax!!! It does not take 10 pages to review and airline. Sure the pictures take up a lot of space, but still- 10 pages makes the reader think, "SKIP ARTICLE!" Yes, sometimes the articles are informative, but you don't want to be too informative at the same time! That bores the reader.

Maybe some of you love Airliners for what it is. Maybe some others love Airways instead. However, I must say I have been dissapointed in Airliners since I subscribed. That's just my opinion.


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User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Actually, has anyone noticed that being on the cover of Airliners is actually some sort of omen? They've had Reno Air, WinAir, WestPac, and now SunCountry - the previous three right before they went away. I think there's a couple more too, but can't think of them right off the top of my head. The funniest part is the article's all about how the airline's doing well, and expects to grow, etc. etc.

User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

My subscription to Airways was supposed to start this month but I have yet to get it. They told me it was going to be sent on Valentine's Day. I have a feeling they will be getting a phone call from me on Monday since all of you seem to have got it.

Take it from someone who works in the journalism industry, sometimes stories are promoted and then not run for reasons beyond a publishers control. I'm sure if it was not run there is a good reason for it.

User currently offlineRolex01 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

Sun Country hasnt gone away.. Thats what this thread was about.. I mean, come on... SC isnt done and Airliners Mag wrote them off!

User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (13 years 9 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

My only issue with Airliners is their constant attention to old time propliners. I realize it represents a certain nostalgia to certain readers, but there is a very limited market for those who want to read about the Martin 404 in the 1950s.

Connies, DC-6s and Convairs were great, but it seems almost half the mag is devoted to that era.

buhh bye
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