Pacificflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1997 times:
Currently Pan Am operates 7 727-200s, which I think more will me delivered each month. They recently purchased 24 727-200s from United Airlines, along with two simulators. The recently delivered aircrafts will be used "out side the United States." The Pan Am Clipper Connection operates; I don't know how many, Jetstream J31s. Yes, like Lowfareair said, you should do a search, there are great deal about it! Also the site www.flypanam.com should already have some answers to you about the goal and the name.
PHX Flyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 474 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1929 times:
Pan Am currently operates 7 Boeing 727-200, some of which did indeed belong to the original company. Their wholly-owned regional affilliate, Boston-Maine Airways, aka Clipper Connection owns 10 J31, only a few of which fly scheduled services at this time. The remainder of the Jetstream fleet will be deployed over time. Planned routes include the Canadian Maritimes and some cities in Florida, Naples and the Keys amongst others.
By midsummer th mainline plans to have 22 727s in service. What routes they will expand to is anybody's guess at tis time, but MIA-SJU and SFB-FPO are most likely two of them. Hope this helps.
DC10Tony From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1012 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1865 times:
I work at SFB, but not for Pan Am.
From what I've seen on the ramp, Pan Am is a pretty good airline. The inside of the planes are neat, clean and smell pretty good. They give you a good amount of food for the flight and their 727-200s have winglets.
Their ground crew always seems to be getting the planes out on time and their mechanics are good also.
I think the reason why this Pan Am is so successful is because they're using the real Pan Am's name.
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4710 posts, RR: 25 Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
By all accounts, their inflight service is great - friendly and efficient flight attendants, fresh-cut flowers in the lavs, 36-37in seat pitch, etc. Their key problem is the mechanical delays with their small fleet of 727-200s (some delays have ranged up to 12 hours while waiting for parts, etc.) I belive that one of the reasons for the purchase from UAL of the 24 72s is to address this problem and have enough spares around.
Pacificflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1750 times:
"Pan Am is determined to bring comfort, convenience and civility to passengers. Pan Am’s fleet of Boeing 727’s have been reconfigured from 173 to 149 seats, allowing passengers more legroom and comfort. Warm scented towels are distributed prior to the in-flight service, which is carried-out via trays, eliminating carts that may block the aisles." This info from the site explains it all for you LmmL 14/32
Lowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1698 times:
>>There was no food on the flight. They got a cookie for the 2 hour flight.<<
That's a lot better than the peanuts they give ya on DL
>>There are no carryon bags allowed.<<
That has sped up the boarding and debaording time considerably, plus people getting pulled for random searches don't have to have their bags checked.
>>The plane was 4 hours late. When he asked the gate agent when the plane could be expected, they didn't know where the plane was or when it would arrive.<<
The gate agent probably didn't know either b/c it was an agent for another airline Pan Am contracted out, or he was new, as Pan Am just came into BWI.
>>Flowers in the lav? They might have done that at some point.<<
Did your friend say that there weren't any or that he didn't go to the bathroom?
>>149 seats? DL operates their 727's with 148 seats. There is only 1 class of service on PA. There is only a nominal amount of extra room between rows of seats.<<
There are several parts to this:
You are forgetting that the first class seats have less seats per row(4) than coach(6). That eliminates one of the three first class rows(3 rows of 4 on DL are 2 rows of 6 on Pan Am.), and gives about 38" to add extra legroom. With the extra 7" from the other rows(make pitch down to 31" instead of 38"), there is 52".
Then add the space for the galley/lavatory that won't be between the classes on Pan Am(Shown on the DL 72S seat map) and that will be at least 36", so we are up to 88".
I also don't think that the F closet/whatever that is on the right side of row 1 and 2 is there, that's an extra F row, so another 38", and we are up to 126". Now divide that by 25 rows in the Clipper jet, and you have your extra five inches.
LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1644 times:
...the in-flight service, which is carried-out via trays, eliminating carts that may block the aisles....
This is a quote from PanAm's web site. I am surprised that there are still airlines with such a mentality. personally I do not think that hand service is more personalised and frees the aisles. There are more FA's literally running around the cabin with armfuls of trays (perhaps 5 or more at a time). Such a service is hurried and dangerous and there is certainly nothing more personalised than trolley service which makes in flight service quicker and smoother.
Pacificflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1561 times:
As hectic as you may think, once when I flew with this Pan Am, there were none of that. Everything was ever so smooth and so personal. it almost feel like the flight attendent brought the tray out just for you and your travelling mates. As soon as the plane took off, the flight attendent came around the cabin with a small note pad and a pen, come to ask you specifically what you would like to drink. Then in a moment they brought it out to you on a tray.
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31714 posts, RR: 72 Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1553 times:
Just wanted to say jetBlue is also food cart-free. They take drink orders and serve passengers with trays and snacks are served from a basket the FA carriers around, and from my experience, it is easier, faster, and more convienent. Plus, the FA's are not in a rush pouring drinks and blocking the asiles. A great idea.
Twaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
An earlier poster asked if the Pan Am 707 was parked beneath the roof. It was. The terminal was before jetways so planes pulled up close to the terminal and under that canopy so pax could be protected from rain and snow. It was a smart idea for the time.
That terminal (Pan Am WorldPort) is still at JFK and has been renamed Terminal 3 it and a newer built addition behind it and Terminal 2 comprise the DL operations at Kennedy. There were plans a year ago to tear down Terminal 3, but they seem to be going nowhere in the current state of the industry.
It is not landmarked but there has been some efforts to do so.
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6095 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1517 times:
I have some friends who flew Pan Am and they said that the only carry on permitted is a woman's hand bag but men aren't permitted carry on . I think that's a big disadvantaged I would never check in my laptop and there are just somethings you need to carry on .
LMML 14/32 From Malta, joined Jan 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 6 Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1469 times:
Going back to the cart-free service: How many FA's on each PanAm flight? Someone said snacks are served during the flight. Now there is a difference between serving a full hot meal on a tray and simply going round with snacks.
MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4210 posts, RR: 36 Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1464 times:
I did a trip report on them in december (a Sanford-Gary flight) Indeed the no carry on luggage policy is annoying. You are allowed to hold a book, walkman or magazine in your hand but not too nice if you take a long flight, and without IFE or meals. But they have special crates for the stuff which you'd like as carry on, which they handle with care and bring in the cabin, so a laptap must be safe in it.
and indeed, I rather had a meal and a cart than the cookie without.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?