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User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 9
Posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

OK, I think I might want to go to Amsterdam when my brother is going over there in a couple weeks. March 14-19.

My options are:

JFK-AMS in a 767-300
AMS-ATL in a MD-11
ATL-ORD in a MD-80
AMS-CDG in an Air France A321
CDG-ORD in an Air France A340-300

MDW-EWR in a 737-500
EWR-AMS in a 767-200
same on the return

They're both in the $620-$630 range. The only other options I have really that's cheaper is Iberia ORD-MAD-BRU (A340) or American ORD-BRU (763) or United ORD-IAD-BRU (763). Flying to Brussels would be significantly cheaper, like up to $200 so I'm considering it, but I don't know how to go about getting from BRU to AMS or how much it costs.

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User currently offlineTOMASKEMPNER From Mexico, joined May 2001, 389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1889 times:

Don´t even try Iberia, you´ll regret it.
Extraordinary bad inflight service, the worst I´ve ever had, modern aircraft, but uncomfortable interiors , and the delays are a must with IB.

I´ll take KL out of ORD

Von voyage ...

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

KLM wasn't an option, too pricy.

User currently offlineDragonRapide From Belgium, joined Sep 2001, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

There are a couple of possibilities to get from BRU to AMS:
1/ Fly. KLM has daily flights, however this will quickly consume your 200 $ you had left ...
2/ Rent a car. But be aware that it will take you around 3 hours without traffic jams to get from BRU to AMS. Unless you are travelling in the weekend traffic jams between these two cities are a certainty and you will find them at least three times on your way. This can easily stratch the driving time to over 4 hours. Also, after a long distance flight you might not feel up to such a long drive.
3/ Take the train. A return ticket will cost about 100 to 150 euro. It is an extension of the high speed train between BRU and Paris. Only, the Thalys (that's how the train is called) uses the normal tracks so he doesn't really travel at high speed. Will take you from Brussels Midi railway station to AMS central station in about 2 hours. Problem is you have to get from BRU to Brussels Midi first. Easiest and cheepest is taking a ... train yes. It will cost you around 4 euro and it will take you about 30 minutes. Do not take a taxi from BRU to Brussels Midi because that is horribly expensive and can take you easily twice the time if it is rush hour.

User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

I would personally lover to fly one of CO´s 762s because I have never been on that version.
Also Continental will offer you solid service and good inflight entertainment so I suggest, you choose to fly over EWR!


User currently offlineAndie007 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 879 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Yes - Thalys ist right.
I think the train goes directy from Brussels main station to Amsterdam main station.

A roundtrip Duesseldorf, Germany - Paris costs me about EURO 80.

User currently offlineLionel From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 391 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1836 times:


On 14.3.02
SR 3785 AMS-ZRH 07:05-08:35
SR 124 ZRH-ORD 10:20-13:10

On 19.3.02
SR125 ORD-ZRH 16:30-07:45
SR3792 ZRH-AMS 11:40-13:15

I flew this route one year ago and it was fantastic! Love

User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

I'd go for the Air France flight.

User currently offlineVgnAtl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1519 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1821 times:

Go with Virgin. Its much better.

Work Hard. Fly Right. Continental Airlines
User currently offlineDragogoalie From Australia, joined Oct 2001, 1220 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1802 times:

I definately reccomend CO. My older brother flew Air France and hated it. Just said that the service was crap and he didn't exactly enjoy the A340. The experiences I've had with Continental have quickly turned them into my favorite airline by far. I see that some of our members aren't too quick here. We are to pick from the list provided, not give other more expensive choices. I also know someone who flew coach with Virgin Atlantic and thought it sucked. I hear they have great first class, but coach sucks. Less leg room than other airlines.


Formerly known as Jap. Srsly. AUSTRALIA: 2 days!
User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

I would go for Virgin Atlantic, but they dropped Chicago and they don't fly to Amsterdam. Plus, after a couple flights I think they're overrated. Good, but overrated.

If I fly to AMS I'm leaning towards CO because 1. I can pick my own seats (I can't on Delta), 2. The IFE and the new 767-200s, and 3. I don't like the CRJ and for the price I can't get around it on Delta.

But I'm really leaning towards flying to BRU since it's so much cheaper. I would be going on United....... I'll have this figured out by the end of the day.

Thanks for all your replies.


User currently offlineKohflot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

MLS: My advice would be to take whatever gets you there the quickest. Remember, you're effectively losing a night by flying over. So if you leave the 14th, you'll get there the 15th.. leaving you with just 4 days without travel. If you fly to BRU, you can pretty much count on losing the first half of the 15th getting to AMS. That's time I personally like to use to nap so I'm not dead to the world for the rest of the day.

My suggestion would be to take DL or CO to AMS. Make your connections in the US so that you have as much time as possible in AMS. As for which one between the two: you might find CO more comfortable and with better inflight entertainment, from what I've been reading. But, a ride in an MD-11 would be nice too.. Another thing to keep in mind is FF miles.. make sure you join the FF program of whichever airline you take. MDW-EWR-AMS-EWR-MDW will get you about 8700 miles on CO. ORD-JFK-AMS-ATL-ORD will earn you almost 9400. Make that trip three times on either airline and you've got yourself a free domestic ticket.

User currently offlineParra From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

I recently flew KLM on a NW codeshare from SFO to AMS and the plane was old, uncomfortable and the food was not fit for a dog. Lucky for me my return flight was delayed and I got transferred to Premium Economy on BA from LHR to SFO.

User currently offlineUps763 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

I would choose Continental, their 762 are very young and have 777 style interiors, plus the 762 is a cool aircraft.

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

I'd fly with bmi british midland via Manchester, England. You'll get to fly their fairly new A330s and considering they're a reasonably small airline the novelty factor might make it interesting for you!
From what I've heard the long haul service is very good, and i've flown short haul with them and had a great time.

Have a great flight whoever you go with!

User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1722 times:

I cross the pond often and I would take either CO or Delta. Avoid Iberia,by far the worst I have ever been on! Unless you speak French I would stay away from AF also! BA also would be a good choice,great service! Have a good flight!

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1709 times:


Thank you for all of your replies. It's UA ORD-IAD-BRU and a train BRU-AMS. UA and the train were about $155 less than flying straight to AMS. I'll get a 777 out to IAD and 763s the rest of the way unless there's a substitution.

I might get stuck in some bad seats on the way over but it's windows on the way back.

I'm looking forward to trying UA's longhaul product.


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1702 times:

Take Continental. Air France is great too, but you'd have to cross the pond with Delta on an MD-11 or 763, and those are torturous. CO's 762's are like mini-777's. They have the new interior, and PTV's for every passenger. However, don't base your opinion solely on PTV's, as I found them to be overrated on my IAH-CDG-IAH trip back in December/January.

User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2092 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

Looks like you could have done a lot better:
$425 "major US carrier"
$495 Swiss Air Lines ORD-ZRH-AMS

Very surprised Kuwait Airways didn't show up.
Twice weekly A340's ORD-AMS.


User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Cba how often have you flown on Delta's MD-11's or 763's? Why do you call them torturous? I have flown both many times and am 6ft.2in.at 240lb! I have always found both quite comfortable and roomey.Just wonder how you arrived at that statement? I agree CO's 762 are great!

User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1672 times:


User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3077 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

ETA- I wanted to be able to pick my seats and know what airline and flights I was flying beforehand, and accrue frequent flyer miles.

I paid $410+$66= $477

I wasn't going to jump through hoops with a consolidator to save $50, which is hardly 'a lot better'.

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