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Why No Livery On EL AL Cargo Planes?  
User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 391 posts, RR: 1
Posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 831 times:

Arent they intersted in promoting themselves in countries where they dont have passenger services, such as in Sri Lanka?

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User currently onlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 15347 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 760 times:
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My best guess is that what was once a nondescript plain ol' freighter suddenly takes on the definition of "high profile target" once you slap the El Al name on the side.

The company spends millions every year on security for their passenger services, since they are easily identifiable and provide a tempting target for a terrorist.

Cargo aircraft are not typically prone to terrorist threats since there isn't a potential for large numbers of hostages like with passenger aircraft, but why tempt fate by advertising "Hey! We're El Al!" on the side when you don't have to?

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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 31
Reply 2, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 731 times:

Ah, you mean the "No I´m not El Al" livery  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Daniel Smile

User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 687 times:

OK folks, tell me this, do you think a terrorist is going to sit under the approach/departure path of a particular runway with a shoulder-launched SAM and just wait until something with "El Al" written on it flies over? As modern-day aviation enthusiasts you should realize how easy it is to find out when exactly a particular a/c is going to be at a certain airport. Also, how many 742 freighters with an all white livery and "Cargo" written on it in huge letters are there? That's right, if anything, this livery makes the a/c more of a target to a real terrorist. Besides, why someone would waste all that effort on attacking a cargo a/c is beyond me.

BTW, LY's convertible 742's (4X-AXF, 4X-AXH) do (and always have) carry the airline's (old) livery.

As to the real reason why LY's freighters carry a white livery, it has been discussed many times before on this board. It may have something to do with the fact that they were routinely leased to CAL (before they acquired their own freighters) for years. CAL might have wanted to operate them on Saturdays (LY is prohibited to fly on Sats), so that may have been the reason. I believe LY did the same thing with a 752 that was used by Arkia on weekends a few years ago.
Not to mention the fact that on occasion the 742Fs have carried advertisements.


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User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 676 times:

So do they plan to paint them? maybe im being too much of an optimist but if what if things improve and they start cargo services to places like Dubai and Jeddah, wont they want to show their identity, because I doubt if theyll ever have passenger services to the Middle East even if normal ties are established.

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User currently offlineConair From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 658 times:

Not sure about this,but could it be anything to do with a way round the Sabbath flying ban which EL AL has to observe ? I have seen a few EL AL freight flights into Heathrow on Saturday afternoons and I seem to remember hearing that they use Foriegn crews on some of these flights to get round the weekend restrictions. But it's just a theory.