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All Spotters - Your Opinion Please  
User currently offlineLekky-Man From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 371 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

If you collect registrations, do you think it's fair, or not, to 'dot spot' airways aircraft, then find out what they were (possibly) and then mark them off?
I was wondering what people thought because I've always thought unless you "read" the reg off, you cannot be 100% sure - or can you? Please tell!!

Cheers,
LM

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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

I do alot of dot spotting.I get the callsign of the plane I see,then use ACARS to get the reg.By doing this Ive seen most of the LH,AF,SN,SR,OS long haul fleets without leaving LHR!
Alex


User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Donder10....What software do you use to view ACARS on-line and what is the cost, if any?

Thanks.



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Hi Dripstrick,
I dont have it myself but there are several yahoo groups where members have ACARS and produce logs.Its about 90 UK pounds so about $220C or so.Bascially it will log the regs of all aircraft that have ACARS too which is like 95% of the modern aicraft in the sky.Please ask away,
Alex


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7380 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

Aah, but do you have your JMC fleet yet? They don't appear to send ACARS messages (nor apparently do Britannia or Monarch - the smaller stuff - and I've yet to see a BRT ERJ145 come up!). If you see these, I may be able to furnish the relevant registration (assuming they bother to talk to their ops frequency!)

David/MAN


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

Nor do Alitalia or BMI David  Big grin Which makes the Alitalia tieups a pain!

User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7380 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1539 times:


Don't remind me about bmi...all they say is how many minutes away there are from touchdown and get the gate assignment!

David


User currently offlineLekky-Man From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

I was after your opinions - is it a fair way of doing it, and can you be 100% certain ACARS is correct, and if so, how?

LM


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

I saw G-WWBM in LHR last summer. I need G-MIDC of their 32X fleet which I think was leased to somone like Air 2k last year

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1518 times:

I think ACARS is 100% because the reg comes from the plane's own computer system.May be wrong though

User currently offlineLekky-Man From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

Where/How do I get hold of ACARS, and what exactly is it?

LM


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Hi LM,
ACARS is basically a flashy fax machine.Are you a member of yahoo by the way?If you are ill send you some invites to yahoo groups where people post ACARS logs daily.Quite a few logs from your neck of the woods
!


User currently offlineRw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

http://www.lhr-lgw.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/euroacars/euroindex.html

this site posts Monthly ACARS info a few days after the end of each month. I can then check the a/c I've seen while commuting on the Turnpike.

rw774477


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

However,the ACARS on that only goes up at the end of the month.On yaho groups you can get ACARS logs at the end of the day

User currently offlineRw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1070 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

what's the link ?

do yo uneed to subscribe ( $$$ ) or just join a club ?

rw774477


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Its completely free.All you need is a yahoo account!However,90% of the logs are from the UK,but I guess alot of flights go over Newark at high altitude from Europe heading to Southern US.

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 16, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ottspotters/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK-Overflights/



User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

To get back to the original question. It's not entirely fair. Flying over Marana and then marking all aircrft down as seen is not the way I think it should be. Moreover as you don't know if the reg is really on it.

However, usually you can mark an aircraft as read due to the various information sources (mostly yahoogroups and specialised magazines). As long as the source is relaible I don't have a problem.

Regards
Laurens


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

Lj,
I only mark down the aicraft I actually see.I use my telescope to look up for the high altitude stuff once I hear them on the radio,and so I know their routing.
Over and around LHR there are a few routes.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8903 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (12 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

Also, the Bradley Airport group posts ACARS on a regular basis.

Jeff


User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 722 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Living near Renton Municipal Airport and seeing 737's and 757's right off the assembly line, I often cannot read the registration, so I will record the airline, type and date, and later find out what the aircraft is registered, usually from Bill Harms' "Commercial Jet Aircraft Census". This is more reliable, in my opinion, than the examples given above, because the specific aircraft is identifiable in most cases.


"So many planes; so little time..."
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

If I can see the type and the airline I will ask a friend in ATC to check the reg for me. This for me is aircraft departing Macau or China. Macau arrivals and departures are not that high, about 6000 feet.

As for the crowds at the `row' that just spend the whole day looking for over flights, I find that a little silly.


User currently offlineLekky-Man From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

Hey Donder10,

Yep, I've got a Yahoo account:-

egbe_ops@yahoo.co.uk

What do ya reckon then?

It would be great if I could get a daily list when there are little or no clouds in the sky!!!

LM


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1298 times:

LOL Daryl.I do that sometimes because if you're LHR reg then you might only be up to catch a handful of registrations.Over LHR are flights to DUB/shannon,arrivals for luton.cambridge,stansted and transatlantic stuff too!Gotta have your eyes awake  Big thumbs up

LM,ACARS logs will be produced come rain,sleet or the occasionly shine  Smile


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

LHR reg as in regular .

25 Rw774477 : where can i get sk reg's into EWR ? rw774477
26 Rw774477 : where can i get SAS reg's into EWR ? rw774477
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