Lekky-Man From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 371 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1160 times:
If you collect registrations, do you think it's fair, or not, to 'dot spot' airways aircraft, then find out what they were (possibly) and then mark them off?
I was wondering what people thought because I've always thought unless you "read" the reg off, you cannot be 100% sure - or can you? Please tell!!
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 24 Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1070 times:
I do alot of dot spotting.I get the callsign of the plane I see,then use ACARS to get the reg.By doing this Ive seen most of the LH,AF,SN,SR,OS long haul fleets without leaving LHR!
Alex
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 24 Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1033 times:
Hi Dripstrick,
I dont have it myself but there are several yahoo groups where members have ACARS and produce logs.Its about 90 UK pounds so about $220C or so.Bascially it will log the regs of all aircraft that have ACARS too which is like 95% of the modern aicraft in the sky.Please ask away,
Alex
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1017 times:
Aah, but do you have your JMC fleet yet? They don't appear to send ACARS messages (nor apparently do Britannia or Monarch - the smaller stuff - and I've yet to see a BRT ERJ145 come up!). If you see these, I may be able to furnish the relevant registration (assuming they bother to talk to their ops frequency!)
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1014 times:
Don't remind me about bmi...all they say is how many minutes away there are from touchdown and get the gate assignment!
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 964 times:
Hi LM,
ACARS is basically a flashy fax machine.Are you a member of yahoo by the way?If you are ill send you some invites to yahoo groups where people post ACARS logs daily.Quite a few logs from your neck of the woods
!
Rw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1028 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 962 times:
Rw774477 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1028 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 943 times:
what's the link ?
do yo uneed to subscribe ( $$$ ) or just join a club ?
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 24 Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 938 times:
Its completely free.All you need is a yahoo account!However,90% of the logs are from the UK,but I guess alot of flights go over Newark at high altitude from Europe heading to Southern US.
Lj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4141 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 916 times:
To get back to the original question. It's not entirely fair. Flying over Marana and then marking all aircrft down as seen is not the way I think it should be. Moreover as you don't know if the reg is really on it.
However, usually you can mark an aircraft as read due to the various information sources (mostly yahoogroups and specialised magazines). As long as the source is relaible I don't have a problem.
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 24 Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 879 times:
Lj,
I only mark down the aicraft I actually see.I use my telescope to look up for the high altitude stuff once I hear them on the radio,and so I know their routing.
Over and around LHR there are a few routes.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8770 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 856 times:
Also, the Bradley Airport group posts ACARS on a regular basis.
Justplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 694 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 830 times:
Living near Renton Municipal Airport and seeing 737's and 757's right off the assembly line, I often cannot read the registration, so I will record the airline, type and date, and later find out what the aircraft is registered, usually from Bill Harms' "Commercial Jet Aircraft Census". This is more reliable, in my opinion, than the examples given above, because the specific aircraft is identifiable in most cases.
Hkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 816 times:
If I can see the type and the airline I will ask a friend in ATC to check the reg for me. This for me is aircraft departing Macau or China. Macau arrivals and departures are not that high, about 6000 feet.
As for the crowds at the `row' that just spend the whole day looking for over flights, I find that a little silly.
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 24 Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 773 times:
LOL Daryl.I do that sometimes because if you're LHR reg then you might only be up to catch a handful of registrations.Over LHR are flights to DUB/shannon,arrivals for luton.cambridge,stansted and transatlantic stuff too!Gotta have your eyes awake
LM,ACARS logs will be produced come rain,sleet or the occasionly shine
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