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Exclusive: Proof WJ Is Going Under!  
User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

WestJet Airlines Ltd. said yesterday its traffic for the month of February was up 58.4%.

However, the increase came on a 63.5% rise in capacity, meaning its planes were flying less full than a year ago. They were 68.5% full on average, down from 70.7% a year earlier. "Even though our load factor was somewhat depressed over last year, I am still pleased with our traffic results for February," said Clive Beddoe, president and chief executive.

http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20020308/272712.html

Guys, if this doesn't prove that WJ is going bankrupt within the next 6 weeks, then I don't know what is...-2.2%...that is HUGE! Even Clive is shaking: he says "our load factor was depressing last year"...if the CEO says that, it *definitely* means they are going under.

And with Air Canada getting their new A340-500s this year, AC will be there to pick up the pieces.

Now, if only Air Canada bought 757s, they would force Transat to go bankrupt, too.

With that in mind, they should also buy SABRE from AA and steal AA's traffic. I wonder why they haven't thought of this before!!!!!!


buhh bye
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User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Proves nothing. Summer is right around the corner. There will be $$ to be made.

What does purchasing an A345s have to with WestJet? 0 point 0


User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

I can't see it happening.

Note that the drop in load factor was over last year's number. This slight drop is certainly expected in light of depressed demand since 9.11.


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4809 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Funny though that WestJets load factors are lower than AC and we all know which one is not losing money  Smile

User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

LOL Lymanm

You're kidding right?



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineFly_ATA From United States of America, joined May 2001, 616 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Westjet is going just fine ....well run airline with great future in my opinion.

User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

Oh no!
I'm flying them in 26 days! That's it! I'm going straight to that check-in counter tomorrow and give' em s**t 'till I get a refund.

Thanks for the 'fo. Mofo.


User currently offlineTNboy From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 1131 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

Since when does "..our load factor was depressed over last year" - something which could be said by most airline CEO's, translate into "...our load factor was depressing last year"? Are you training to be a journo??
Bill TNboy



"...every aircraft is subtly different.."
User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Haha ok Lymanm you must get some pretty good sh*t down there in montreal, how about fedexing me some?

User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

February traffic figures reveal a 58.4% increase in revenue passenger miles over Feb of 2001. Overall load factor fell to 68.5% from 70.7% a year earlier.

Down 2%…so what? It’s post 9.11 remember? It’s also March, which is traditionally slow for domestic operators, which WJA is.

Beddoe…”…our load factor was somewhat depressed..” It wasn’t depressing. Depressed, in this context, means declined.



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Cessnapimp, you should be OK for 26 days. I just wouldn't book anything later than that.

Listen, I know some of you are dubious, but this is the EXACT same circumstance as Continental's bankruptcy and subsequent shutdown in 1997. I'm privy to certain facts that prove me right.



buhh bye
User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Yep 6 weeks sounds about right there Lymanm, in fact I bet they'll cease operations tomorrow! Oh maybe they've already done that I should give the reservation line a call just to make sure!

Westjet just sold 68 million dollars worth of stock, I assure they will not be ceasing operations from today and 6 weeks or a year for that matter.


User currently offlineFly_ATA From United States of America, joined May 2001, 616 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

Continental has never "shut down"

User currently offlineCessnapimp From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1320 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

That's what the feds want you to believe.
Hey Matt, you got a star!


User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1735 times:

lol

first of all your dumb

Westjet is not going under as I highly doubt they would have gotten a lease on 2 737-800 because their -700s arent coming fast enough. Also I dont think they would have just confirmed their order for 2 more -700s with boeing.

I dont know why you would even suggest this

As dash8King said what ever crack you are smoking I would like some of it. I work with Westjet here in YHM and I can tell you our loads are awsome coming in and going out of here. Also We have passengers come here from place the would bring them right past YYZ and guess what I have asked a few of them about why they don't fly AC and they say because they want to save funny while not having shit service and shit experiences.

If you like Air Canada then like Air Canada but if dont go around bad mouthing one of the greatest airlines. around

oh 1 more thing some of the Air Canada Staff in Montreal have been asking us when we are going to be their.



Where will you spend eternity? He,s more real then you think!!!!!
User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1716 times:

Lymanm, it sounds like you're overreacting here!

The drop in WJ's traffic is nothing to worry about. WJ seems to be in very good shape in many ways. If it was in any danger of going under, we would've started to see some warning signs by now. Such as a dangerously low amount of cash on hand, for example. And certain changes in management practices, too, especially after a switch of CEO's. Or signs of an impending sale. There doesn't really seem to be anything like what Canadian Airlines (God bless the Blue Goose...!) was going under prior to it untimely demise. WJ seems to be a pretty well managed company.

Wait'll the summer season comes into full swing - your fears will be totally unfounded!


User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 724 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1704 times:

One Word-Sarcasm.


"So many planes; so little time..."
User currently offlineJean Leloup From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2116 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Agreed... That was a sarcastic post; either that, or, as suggested above, Lymanm is training to be a very bad journalist, presumably for the Journal De montréal...

"Ouestjet... Déprimé!!!...!!!"



Next flight.... who knows.
User currently offlineTygue From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Oh dear. I hear Air Canada, Skyservice and Air Transat are going down with it!

Where's Greyhound when you need 'em?



User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

I'll bet Air Canada would kill for a 68.5 % load factor ....


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3057 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

What a crazy, groundless post.

Lymanm, are you a westjet hater ? Are you a frustrated aviator who didn't make the grade to work for them ? As someone who is aged 16-20, on what facts do you base your wild prophecy; with your head for figures, perhaps you should consider working in the finance department of Enron  Big thumbs up

Shamu



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

I have a feeling this was posted in a sarcastic manner

User currently offlineVh-daq From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2001, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

[img]http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/aircraft2/737600.gif[/img]

just trying this!!!


User currently offlineVh-daq From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2001, 182 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

whoopsy sorry bout that

User currently offlineAamd11 From UK - Wales, joined Nov 2001, 1061 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Something tells me this guy has something against the airline or its management....

simply put i think he has been sitting on something lately


25 Rootsgirl : O.K., were you bored, so you decided to start a useless rumour to entertain yourself? If not, then you must be a reporter for CNN - making a mountain
26 Post contains images Yow : This is either complete sarcasm or someone who's jealous that YUL is not on the WJ map yet...don't worry they will be soon, just be patient. Yeah, WJ'
27 Post contains images Yow : Hey Lymanm, betcha didn't think sarcasm would generate so much interest eh!
28 Post contains images Samurai 777 : If this really is sarcasm, you must be jealous or something about WJ not coming into YUL yet. Trust me (and Yow), WJ WILL serve YUL sooner or later!
29 Cap'n Dan : Listen guys, I know Lymanm, and his dad is Clive Beddoes' brother-in-law's sister's dog groomer. He is TOTALLY in the know. Man, that guy is sooooo co
30 Post contains images Crj-900 : Dc10guy; “Air Canada would kill for a 68.5% load factor” I guess you are not one that believes in topic research? Air Canada had the highe
31 Dash8King : Yes I was going to say that on my recent post but forgot. Air Canada had a 76.8% loadfactor up 6% from last February. http://www.globeinvestor.com/ser
32 Fallingeese : Lymanm you are one hell of a fucking moron. LONG LIVE WESTJET! Oh no! Air Canada's loadfactor only increased 6% they will fail in 2 hours...
33 Bowen0614 : Lymanm, are you kidding? WestJet is going to bankrupt in 6 weeks??
34 Dash8King : PEOPLE, PEOPLE how can you all doubt Lymanm?? I in fact think we should crown him king such a fine prediction! Lymanm I really need your help should I
35 BO__einG : Drink some beer and you'll feel better..
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