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User currently offlinemilotoo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 729 times:

If you have been to a dangerous airport like ones in the caribbean or oslo,kai tak,la guardia tell me about it, what plane were you on.What was it like.

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User currently offlineflyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 713 times:

What do you mean by dangerous? Because of weather? Terrorism? Terrain?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28604 posts, RR: 73
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 715 times:

Get a copy of the Febuary issue of Airways magazine. They have a story about my former airline Reeve Aleutian Airways and show pictures of the airport at Dutch Harbor. The pictures speak for themselves. Just keep in mind that was a very nice day. If there is more then a week of that weather there it is very unusual. By they way Alaska Airlines flys 737-200 into there.


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User currently offlineairplanekid From United States, joined May 1999, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 714 times:

I saw that issue. I would hate to be a pilot landing there. One of the tuffest approaches I have ever seen.

User currently offlineCapK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 716 times:

What is soo tough about it??
Is it windy/mountains...
I don't have that copy of the mag but if it is wourth it as you guys claim, I am off to find it!!!
CapK

User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28604 posts, RR: 73
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 714 times:

All of the Above. The Aleutian Islands of Alaska are known for their bad weather. That and the airport is located on a volcanic island in the middle of a Mountain lined Fjord. I have flown in there one on a 737 and I can assure you it is a neck breaker stop. Cool place to take A/C photos thought. I wish I had a camera on that trip. If you want to go there Alaska Airlines flight 22 it is flown by a 737-200QC



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User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3078 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 715 times:

Try to land here with a 757

Who knows what airport is this?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28604 posts, RR: 73
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 719 times:

Great Issue wasn't it. Another good site to see bad approaches in Alaska is at www.firebirds.org. These guys flew ski equipted C130's in Alaska and Greenland for the Air Force. I also have a link to the FSDO in Fairbanks Alaska on my site. They have photographs of some of the remote airports up there. My site is www.aero.und.edu/~shmiler. Go to the Alaska Flying Page. I have a beta page that I will add to the site that has a photograph of the Dutch Harbor airport in WWII. it is in the second photo table, Second row, second col..

Did you see the photograph of the marsheler at Cold Bay. That was where I used to work! I can't decide if that was my former roomate Tom parking the airplane or not. If it is I might be able to tell when it was taken.I really need to make some scans I took of the plans that flew in there but my scanner is down here with me and my photos are in a box up there. DARN IT!!!! I have some good ones too.

If that is a fairly recent picture(only a couple of months old) I do need to harass the guys at CDB about something. When I was there the Station Manager went on a painting frenzy and had us pain the inside of the terminal, safety areas on the ramp. The light posts, handrails on the terminal, ECT, ECT, ECT, and the Equiptment. Do you see the pallet roller on the right against the building. The red paint on it is only halfway done. Just as I left it in August of 1997!!!




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User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28604 posts, RR: 73
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 712 times:

Interesting. I wonder how much the elevated ramp cost???

Don't know the airport but judging from the threshold markings at least you have some distance to play with.


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User currently offlineL1011 From United States, joined May 1999, 1325 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 714 times:
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I have flown into and out of Dutch Harbor in Electras, and I agree that it is a tricky approach. The instant we touched down, props were reversed, and it seemed like we hit a brick wall. On takeoff, we taxied out the the extreme limit of the runway, and as soon as we broke ground, we made an immediate right turn. Also, there is a road that crosses the runway. I can't remember if there were signal lights, like at railroad crossings. But it is a public road, not restricted.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28604 posts, RR: 73
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 712 times:

Yep Just like a railroad. Not only does it cross the end of the runway. but also the taxiway to the seaplane ramp. That is where I would love to go back and get picture of the aircraft takeing off and landing. The road was marked off with big rocks that you could stand on and get some great shots with. It is either a right turn or left turn depending on which way you go otherwise you hit the mountains.

I flew in there on a Markair 737 back in 1991, Like I said that was the only time I have ever been slammed forward in an airplane. Departed in a Dash-8-300 didn't seem as panicy as the 37


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User currently offlineairplanekid From United States, joined May 1999, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 714 times:

Yes, I saw the picture. I will check out the issue tonight to see it better and look for the roller. I will let you know tomorrow.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States, joined Jul 1999, 28604 posts, RR: 73
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 712 times:

I forgot on the last post to tell you the URL for the beta site of mine is www.aero.und.edu/~shimiller/wwii.html. The WWII picture of Dutch Harbor is the second from the top, second row. Would you belive they where landing PBY on that. Yes the runway is curved. Oh by the way if you look on the site you will see three picture of the Cold Bay airport taken during the war from different angles. There where more people in those picture then are there now.


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User currently offlineNoel Benford From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 711 times:

Mirage, that's Funchal Airport on the island of Madeira. Flown there a few times in FS98. Tricky airport! On the opposite approach, you fly a curved IGS like at Kai Tak, only it points you into the mountain! This airport is VERY difficult of not the most difficult airport to land at. That's not just because of the mountains, the stilts, and the approach, but the high and turbulent winds that are different depending where you are on the runway!

Noel Benford

User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3078 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 714 times:

Yes, it's Funchal, one of the most difficult airports in the world to land. After the new stilts are ready, the runway will be curved but bigger. The larger plane who flies to Funchal is the 757.

Mirage, Faro, Portugal

User currently offlineMarkus From United States, joined May 1999, 273 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 714 times:

A curved runway!! How in the world is that going to work out? I can't imagine having to try and stay down the centerline at 140-150 kts.

Cheers,
Markus

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