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Any Airline You Refuse To Fly With Again?  
User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

hi,

someone is asking on airliners what aircraft you wouldnt fly with again, however just as important as the actual plane is the airline that owns it.

For me i would never fly european or iberia ever ever again.

i would love to know what airlines your refuse to fly with and why


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User currently offlineUvalencia From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

Well I havent really flown that many airlines to have a winner, nevertheless I sure try to avoid Continental Airlines because all their flights out from Mexico City to IAH are so crowded, I find the 737 very uncomfortable airplane and the people in the Mexico City's airport counters are rude, so I rather use AA to DFW.

User currently offlineFly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3790 times:

United....

User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

There aren't any airlines I would never fly on again. But if Air Canada's service levels keep falling, I just might add AC to that list.

User currently offlineFRA_GIM From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 54 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3723 times:

Hey,

Iberia, Aeroflot and TAM!!!


User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3691 times:


Alitalia: delays, rude staff at check-in counters & on-board, old dirty planes, a cancelled flight, cheap and poor meal service, bad connections, damaged luggage.

Thank God there's choice!


User currently offlineSwissA330 From Switzerland, joined Mar 2002, 613 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

I certainly hope that i don't have to fly Iberia anymora. althogh with swiss about to enter OneWorld, i might have to fly with them again.

On my flight on a IB 727 the Landing was so harsh, that even some oxygen Masks fell down, and a cabin lamp as well... Only on this airline so far...



swissair/+/ we care
User currently offlineMiami1 From Australia, joined Feb 2001, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3636 times:

I wouldnt pay to fly QANTAS. I would never fly Swissair again they have the rudest flight attendants in the entire universe. I was onboard thier aircraft in Singapore the day they folded and quite frankly I wasnt surprised they did. thier "couldnt give a damn attitude" was very apparent evan after they started thier flights again. lets hope SWISS airlines is an improvement.

User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

Airtran, err.. Valujet


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User currently offlineBBADXB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

Swiss A330,

When did you fly the IB 727? ..it's just that I think that IBERIA has made quite an improvement lately.


User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Iberia and Air France! Had terrible service on both!

User currently offlineAWA22 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

Southwest

User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1963 posts, RR: 32
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3557 times:

United....

User currently offlineBledd330 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Air Atlanta flight attendants did not speak very good english so i had rubbish service


For the other half of the sky
User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3073 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3527 times:
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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3469 times:

NORTHWEST !!!!!!!!!!!
Bad service, and bad seats !!!! The chair in my office is not the best one . But it is much comfortable than my seat on their DC10 !!! And I don't have to stay on my chair for 9 to 10 hours !!!!
Nana...



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User currently offlineIronchain15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

Probably United, until they can get their act together.

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3398 times:

Air Canada


I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Sterling (Danish charter) and Air India, both have this
"why do you bother us?"-attitude against their passengers.


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3378 times:

In 1982 I vowed NEVER to take CO ever again due to a flight where I was continuously verbally attacked by a F/A! Here are the details:

It was during the Texasl International takeover of CO when this incident took place. I flew up to PHL on the old CO and over the weekend they merged.
On the way back this flight was after the merger.
Anyway it was a 10:00am flight from PHL-IAH. A freind and I had breakfast at the airport and i checked in, no problems yet. When I was boarding there were 2 F/A's at the entrance to the aircraft and I said 'Good Morning" to them and one of them said "Shut up, you son of a bitch!" I asked her is she had a problem, and she said "Yeah, I have a problem and it's YOU!" I said "OK" and went to my seat (24A). (727-200). There were about 30 pax on board and there was nobody in 24B or C but there was a Navy guy in 24D. On the way to the runway this F/A walked by me and while doing the demo she said to me "you better listen to this, we're not doing it again for you!" I was just sitting there watching them. I couldn't believe this all was happening.  Confused
About an hour after takeoff. meal service was started. This obejctionable F/A was in the rear galley staging the food and a male F/A was serving. He was very nice and asked me what I would like to drink with my lunch. I said a Bacardi and Coke, and he said ok. He said that his cart didn't have any Bacardi on board and he looked toward the galley and said "The gentleman in 24A needs a Bacardi" (we were only 4 rows or so from the galley). This F/A came out and said that "He'll be lucky if he ever get's anything else on this airline again!"  Nuts
The male F/A looked shocked and said he will get the drink. So he rolls the cart back and has a discussion with the F/A with attitiude. She then leaves the galley and goes to first and another F/A from first comes back. They were nice and the rest of the flight was fine. The Navy guy stopped a F/A during the flight and asked why was I being singled out for treatment like that. He told the male F/A that I was just sitting there minding my own business and that this F/A was on some kind of rampage with me. The F/A said he didn't know what was going on, but everything was fine now.
When we landed at IAH I was going to ask this F/A what HER problem was, but she was in the cockpit talking to the Captain. When I looked in the cockpit, the captain got up and slammed the door shut. So I went to the gate and asked the agent for a supervisor, that I had a serious complaint to make about this flight. He said he would call someone for me. BTW, the Navy guy went along with me to provide supporting comments about what happened. After about 15 minutes a supervisor showed up and I started to tell him the story about what happened, and he said that we shouldn't discuss this in the gate area, we need to go to his office. So down into the bowels of terminal C we go to a small office. I told him the whole story and the Navy guy backed me up on this. The
supervisor told me he was very sorry this happened, but that I must be mistaken, CO's 727-200 series planes DO NOT have a seat 24A so I must have been on another airline! I showed him my ticket folder with the CO logo on the seat designator 24A and he said he didn't know where that came from, but his computer doesn't even show me on that flight! This was like out of the Twilight Zone! I told him that just a few weeks ago, BN filed for bankruptcy and told him that if they treat customers in this manner they will be next to go!
He just laughed and said that CO has all the money they need and they would never consider bankruptcy!  Wow!  Wow!
I wrote a complaint letter to CO and did receive a reply. It said that I boarded the plane in a "drunk and disorderly manner" and caused a "general disruption" to the flight crew during the entire flight. I should consider myself lucky that they don't ban me from CO for good!"
I realize that CO is now a different company that it was and the merger with Texas International was not an easy one, but does anyone have a reason I should ever take CO again?  Pissed  Pissed


User currently offlineRoyalDutch From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 917 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Air France....a reliability nightmare (both on-time and baggage), with rude ground staff at CDG (which has the worst airport infrastructure of any airport I have even been to)...they do have friendly enough F/A's, though...no friendly enough to offset their other shortcomings, though.

User currently offlineVarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1605 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3373 times:

hi

hey type-rated, it is a twilight zone story!!!!!!

once at CDG1 a pax came to me and told me she had been badly treated on TW. As she wanted to ask smg to the stewardess ,this one looked at her without answering; so the pax gently tapped at her : the stewardess then yelled out loud "don't you touch me ever again!" the pax (backed by another one) told me she was so confused she remained seated in shock for the rest of the flight....

anyway I wouldn't flight Corsair again : flights often delayed and overcrowded (over 500 pax in a 747 and 9 seats abreast in an A332!!!!!!)



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User currently offlineFrequentflier From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 422 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

American

Any airline that trains its pilots to combat wake turbulence with THE RUDDER certainly doesn't get my money.

Also, United Shuttle.

Thankfully, so I have heard, UA Shuttle is going out of business. Is this the case? Hopefully the decrepid 737s, lack of service, and cattle-car mentality will go out the door with UAS!


User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1065 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3364 times:

well i would have to say air france, due to a delay at manchester while travelling to india. The aircraft had a leakage on the left engine, it was an A320- this lead to me missing my connecting flight to delhi from CDG as we came in about 30 mins after the departure of the DEL flight. i didnt mind the delay, can happen to anyone, but what really got me going was the rude, full of attitude, and ignorant staff at the transit desks in CDG. They claimed the flight was delayed due to poor weather, when in fact it was delayed due to a leakage on an engine. they persisted with what they were saying. during this time i overheard the person next to me, who was having the same problem, and the person at the desk did in fact acknowledge that it was due to technical difficulties and not bad weather, even tho that was what he first said as well. i just think the staff there are very rude, not all just some.
I did in fcat love my delay in paris, and would die for a delay whenever possible, and was given a complimentary hotel and i got to see paris- for the first time.
I do love delays, but rude staff i hate. i have to also say that the PTV was not working throughout the return journey, it kept coming on and off throughout the whole flight- even without any interaction from myself. They have a lot of potential, but it was 1 bad experience, and from this, i will try and fly another airline where possible, but i would not go out of my way considerably to avoid the airline- as i said..... i love delays  Big thumbs up havnt had lost airline baggage, but air france is the way to go if thats what i want  Smile
i havnt flown many airlines, but this was a poor experience compared to the others. but they are quite good, food was cool, was pretty comfortable, some nice FA's, some bad ones, all in all a regular flight.
going off topic slightly:-
A340 was far too comfortable though if u ask me, the slow take off roll, the gradual climb, the smooth cruise, the quiet flight, the graduall descent, the smooth landing- its just how a fligtht should be for the majority, but i luv a fast take off, and a steep climb and lots of turbulance and a desccent which i can feel, and well i dont mind if the landing is same  Smile.
regards
Ammunition



Saint Augustine- 'The world is a book and those who do not travel, read only 1 page'
User currently offlineCx744 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

United

www.untied.com


25 Tekelbery : American
26 Blink182 : I second BlueShamu330s' opinion. I will never fly on a charter airline who's slogan is "We cram 'em in" blink
27 EE-Kay : My experience of an Air France 120-minute flight service is very good: best meal in economy on a short haul flight and a very dedicated, nice and pol
28 Setjet : German Charter Carrier LTU. B 767 Flight from Windhoek (Namibia) to Munich (Germany). Flight was delayed because of 'computer problems', they couldn't
29 Spark : My first opinion one this board was Southworst (which is totally unjustified). I'm not a big fan of the cattle car mentality of Southwest (or Air Houn
30 OO-AOG : The only one: N O R T H W E S T. Never never again.
31 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : SW - unless they bring back the 747SP... Daniel
32 Sabena332 : SW - unless they bring back the 747SP... I agree! Patrick
33 Post contains links and images Godbless : I have to join in with the previous two posts... Only the 747SP will bring mw back Max http://www.IntAviation.de.vu
34 Pilatus : Lufthansa
35 WunalaDreaming : Cyprus Airways. Eeeeeew!
36 Eugdog : I do not really care about service and pitch on short flights. Any airline will do. On long haul flights I try for American because of the extra leg r
37 Dick : Aerolineas Argentinas comes to mind first, though Alitalia is a very close second.
38 Spinkid : Spirit Even if you offered me a free ticket, I still wouldn't fly them.
39 Go Canada! : so it seems nobody would fly united or air france again...hm im not surprised, nor am i surprised about iberia or scabitilia. Cyprus Airways was an en
40 Caribb : So far none for me... although Delta's cramped seating and nonexistant service didn't impress me much but I'd still fly them if the price is right.
41 Englandair : EUGDOG- VS, BA and UA all have pitches greater than 29inches! I beleive VS= 30, BA= 31 and I'm not sure about UA. I now it's only one or 2 inches more
42 Dutchjet : Citybird, my flight with them from BRU to MIA was one of the worst flying experiences ever, from beginning to end. Flying with them again is not an op
43 Layitontheline : Pakistan airlines Air India and Olylimpic Airlines
44 Kjet12 : Iberia... Rude staff, horrible food, cramped seating, dirty cabin (757).
45 Post contains images Airindia : Well my choice is : SABENA - Such A Bloody Experience Never Again.
46 Post contains images N400QX : Well if TWA was in existance today, it would be my pick. I hated almost every minute of my experiences with them. So, for now, its any large airbus fl
47 Coronado : Type-Rated--are you a look alike to Frank Lorenzo? Maybe the FA in question was actually Nostradamus and could predict the future for her airline and
48 Spitfire : Air India, You will never have another "bloody experience" with us anymore...we are OUT ...and 6000 people jobless. Take Air India next time you fly..
49 Lt-AWACS : Delta, Delta, and Delta. I will never pay for a ticket and fly them on my own. Only due to the fact the Govt buys us tickets on Delta on some routes I
50 AC340 : AIR TRANSAT!!!
51 Go Canada! : spitfire, being bitter wont help anyone, sabena was a bad airloine. im sorry that 6000 people have lost their jobs but its no surprise, sabena through
52 Paulc : Aerolineas Argentina, Garuda, Air France in no particular order
53 Post contains links Spitfire : Air Canada, You'd better check the different airlines quality survey: http://www.airlinequality.com/StarRanking/4star.htm (FOUR STARS RANKING!!!!) bef
54 Go Canada! : em a) im called go canada, that doesnt say i am air canada. b) stats can be used for anything, a conumser association reprt in the uk ut sabena in the
55 Go Canada! : http://www.pyramid.ch/airgairline_rate.htm for a start begs to differ over sabena's 'quality'.
56 Spitfire : According to your reference, Sabena was just below average, and there are lots of worst "well known airlines" behind !!! So nothing to do with "a bloo
57 SQ325 : I'll never fly RYANAIR I'll never fly again on a Iberia Aircraft. Last July I've flown FRA-MAD-MIA and back. A320 and A340 crappy seats ugly and unfri
58 Go Canada! : please clarify.. "(For info I checked your "profile" before answering you) Rgds. " im unsure on what my profile has to do with your tax dollars.
59 Mehtabrahman : Pakistan International and Aeroflot....never ever in my life!!
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