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Do US Airlines Fly Over Cuba?  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6778 posts, RR: 7
Posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 16953 times:

Lots of US airline flights would fly over Cuba if they could, to Grand Cayman, Jamaica, Panama and S America. Do they? Does Cuba charge a fee? If so, can the airlines pay without violating the embargo?

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User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 16819 times:

As I understand it, all US airlines are not permitted to fly anywhere near Cuba. This includes over it. Thus, the flights have to take a longer route to their destination. That's why if you want to go to from Boston to Costa Rica you have to cross over Texas on your way over there.

I hope this helps.

- Neil Harrison


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 16816 times:

Actually, with prior coordination and approval from the Cuban government, you can overfly Cuba via the Giron or Maya corridors that run north-south across the island. Stray outisde the corridor and they get a little miffed, and might even send up a Mig or two depending upon the political climate d'jour. If they're really pissed off, sometimes the close the corridors and everyone had to deviate around their airspace...

Don't know how much an overflight costs, as that aspect was handled by out finance department.


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 16792 times:

Actually, with prior coordination and approval from the Cuban government, you can overfly Cuba via the Giron or Maya corridors that run north-south across the island. Stray outisde the corridor and they get a little miffed, and might even send up a Mig or two depending upon the political climate d'jour. If they're really pissed off, sometimes the close the corridors and everyone had to deviate around their airspace...

Don't know how much an overflight costs, as that aspect was handled by out finance department.


User currently offlineSCXmechanic From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 534 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 16788 times:

I know for a fact, my airline flies over Cuba on a regular basis. They have to have an authorization code or something similar to a slot code, like what would be used at major airports. It is usually listed on the flight plans that guys OPNLguy generate for the crews.

As a matter of fact, I will be flying from MSP to Havana Cuba this coming weekend and the next. (22nd and 29th.) We have a special charter going down. The first trip I make, we will have about 5 hrs on the ground before flying back to MSP.

Just another stamp in the ole passport...  )


User currently offlineCALPilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 998 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 16763 times:

I fly over Cuba all the time, the controlers are great, their English is very good, and they give me the impresion they don't care were we are in the corridor. When you check in they don't really care about all the reporting points, except the enterance, and exit of the FIR.

User currently offlineDC-10MAN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 16763 times:

...and at my airline. We usually go through Air Routing in Houston for our Cuban overflight permits. As I understand it, the embargo is avoided by depositing the overflight money (about $2500, I think) in a Canadian account. The overflight permit number from Cuban authorities is put in the remarks section of the filing strip, and as long as the flightplan is through the corridor that you were approved for, there shouldn't be any problems. ADIOS


User currently offlineBoeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 16762 times:

A friend of mine flew with a UPS B727QF (charter flights on the weekend) from Louisville via Nashville to Aruba and they had to fly around Cuba; I suppose they did not get authorization to use the corridors other people have mentioned.

Boeing727


User currently offlineCaymanCX From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (14 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 16757 times:

I havent read all of the replies, but Pilot 1113 is wrong. Back in 1997 I flew from Baltimore (BWI) nonstop to Grand Cayman (GCM) on a course that took us over the Atlantic, through the Bahamas, over Cuba, and approaced G Cayman from the north, down 7Mile Beach, and into Owen Roberts Airport. I tried to post a photo I took of Cuba from the 737-300, but the quality wasn't good enough, (I was over the wing!). Coincidentally, we flew over Cuba AGAIN on the return flight, also USAirways, a 737-400 that time.

Take a flight to the Caribbean, the views from the air are fabulous!
Cuba, however, wasn't too spectacular. The part we flew over was mostly
farmland, I beleive - not too gorgeous!!


Cheers,
Patrick.



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